Loop Quantum Cosmology: Explained in Layman's Terms

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the criticisms of Loop Quantum Cosmology (LQC) as articulated by Martin Bojowald. Participants explore the implications of these criticisms, particularly regarding the mathematical challenges at the "bounce" and the compatibility of LQC with General Relativity (GR).

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that Bojowald's criticism highlights issues with inhomogeneities causing mathematical breakdown at the bounce in LQC.
  • One participant interprets Bojowald's concerns about infrared renormalization as indicating that the mathematics fails at different energy scales.
  • Another participant suggests that the covariance issues imply that the solutions derived from LQC do not respect the symmetries of General Relativity.
  • There is a mention of ongoing uncertainty regarding how LQC can align with General Relativity in the appropriate limits, raising questions about its viability as a theory of gravity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying interpretations of Bojowald's criticisms, indicating that multiple competing views remain regarding the implications for LQC and its relationship with General Relativity. The discussion does not reach a consensus on these points.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific interpretations of Bojowald's work and the unresolved nature of how LQC can be reconciled with established theories like General Relativity.

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I have heard that one of the of the founders of LQC, Martin Bojowald is now rather critical of it. And sample of his criticism can be found here:
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1810.00238.pdf
I would be really grateful if someone could explain this in more laymen language . Any thoughts on the issues also welcome.
 
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It sounds like what he's saying here is that inhomogeneities make the math break down at the "bounce" of loop quantum cosmology. Basically, before the bounce, when the universe is contracting, any small overdense regions will collapse, making the universe less and less homogeneous as the collapse continues. This makes the math at the "bounce" break down, requiring some really careful fine-tuning of the parameters to make the universe smooth at the bounce (as is required).
 
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Thanks KImbyd, much appreciated. He seems to refer to issues with infrared renormalisation and covariance. Am I right to interpret the former as saying that as one gets to different energy scales the maths breaks down and the latter as implying the solutions don't respect the symmetries of GR?
 
windy miller said:
Thanks KImbyd, much appreciated. He seems to refer to issues with infrared renormalisation and covariance. Am I right to interpret the former as saying that as one gets to different energy scales the maths breaks down and the latter as implying the solutions don't respect the symmetries of GR?
My understanding is that a continuing problem with loop quantum gravity is that they don't know how to make it match General Relativity in the right limits. So there's uncertainty over whether or not it's even a viable theory of gravity, let alone quantum gravity.
 

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