Lorandite Detection of Solar Neutrino Flux - Alshar's

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mineral lorandite (TlAsS2) and its potential use in detecting solar neutrino flux. Participants explore the mechanisms by which lorandite might detect neutrinos, the challenges associated with its use as a detector, and some misconceptions surrounding the mineral's properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that a Tl atom can absorb a neutrino and undergo a reverse beta decay to become lead (Pb-205), suggesting that detecting lead atoms could provide insights into neutrino flux over geological time.
  • Another participant highlights the complexity of counting lead atoms generated from neutrino interactions and the need to eliminate other sources of lead contamination.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding claims made by a local newspaper about lorandite releasing large amounts of energy, labeling it as nonsense.
  • Another participant agrees with the skepticism about the newspaper's claims, stating that while there is a small amount of energy released upon neutrino absorption, it is negligible compared to other nuclear processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the claims made by the local newspaper about lorandite becoming an "artificial Sun" are likely incorrect. However, there is no consensus on the practicality or reliability of using lorandite as a neutrino detector, as challenges remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the detection mechanisms and the complexities involved in measuring lead atoms, which may depend on specific experimental conditions and definitions of contamination.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in neutrino detection, mineral properties, and the intersection of geology and particle physics may find this discussion relevant.

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I came across various sites that discuss the mineral known as lorandite (TlAsS2). One, a more 'popular science' one is www@worldpress.org/Europe/2781.cfm . There's a paper too, but I can't get it since it's not freely available (www@sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TJM-473DD45-FJ&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=0c9c11a59c9706071b4a8c5988be1dc8 ). So, can some one explain how can this mineral detect the solar neutrino flux and if it can, why isn't it widely used as a detector?

( replace the @s with dots in the links, the forum tells me that I need to have more than 15 posts in order to post links )

PS. I hope this it the right forum for this kind of questions, please move it if I'm wrong.
 
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A Tl atom can absorb a neutrino and through sort of a reverse beta decay become an atom of lead - Pb-205. The lead is stuck in the mineral and so if you can detect the few lead atoms generated over the geologic time you will have an idea of neutrino flux over geologic time... It isn't used routinely because it is very complex to count the few lead atoms, AND be sure you have eliminated all the other ways lead might show up...
 
Billygoat, thanks for the answer. I was very confused about this mineral, as a local (as in, Macedonian) newspaper wrote that it can release large amounts of energy, thus becoming an "artificial Sun", which sounded like and seems to be - nonsense.
 
Yeah, dzogi, I expect it is nonsense although I've not seen the article, of course. There is a small amount of energy relesed on the absorption of the neutrino, but small compared to many nuclear processes.
 
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