Lorentz action on creation/annihilation operators

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The discussion revolves around the transformation of creation operators under the Lorentz action in the context of quantum field theory, specifically as described in the book "Quantum Field Theory for Mathematicians" by Ticciati. Participants explore how to demonstrate the transformation rule for the creation operators of a free scalar field and clarify the implications of unitarity and vacuum invariance.

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  • Some participants suggest starting from the definition of how momentum eigenstates transform under the Lorentz group, specifically that \( U(\Lambda)|k\rangle = |\Lambda k\rangle \).
  • Others express confusion about the transformation of creation operators, particularly how to derive the relation \( U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger \) from the transformation of the vacuum state.
  • There is a discussion about the invariance of the vacuum state under Lorentz transformations, with some participants confirming that \( U(\Lambda)|0\rangle = |0\rangle \).
  • One participant questions the necessity of conjugating the operator and expresses uncertainty about the implications of acting on the vacuum with \( U(\Lambda)^\dagger \).
  • Another participant notes that the transformation of operators must be consistent with the transformation of kets, emphasizing the importance of preserving normalization.
  • Some participants propose that the analogous transformation for annihilation operators can be derived by taking the Hermitian conjugate of the transformation for creation operators.

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Participants generally agree on the transformation properties of momentum eigenstates and the invariance of the vacuum state. However, there remains some uncertainty and confusion regarding the specific steps to derive the transformation of creation operators and the implications of unitarity, indicating that the discussion is not fully resolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations in their understanding of the transformation process, particularly regarding the use of unitarity and the implications for vacuum states. There is also mention of the need to clarify the distinction between the transformation of kets and operators.

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Hi,
I'm currently reading the book "Quantum Field Theory for Mathematicians" by Ticciati and in section 2.3 he mentions that the Lorentz action on the free scalar field creation operators
[itex]\alpha(k)^\dagger[/itex] is given by

[tex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger = <br /> \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger .[/tex]
Can someone tell me how to show this, or at least how to get started?
 
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jackson1 said:
Hi,
I'm currently reading the book "Quantum Field Theory for Mathematicians" by Ticciati and in section 2.3 he mentions that the Lorentz action on the free scalar field creation operators
[itex]\alpha(k)^\dagger[/itex] is given by

[tex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger = <br /> \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger .[/tex]
Can someone tell me how to show this, or at least how to get started?

Momentum eigenstates [itex]|k>[/itex] transform (by definition given how the momentum, k, transforms) according to:

[tex]U(\Lambda)|k>=|\Lambda k>[/tex]
By writing a momentum eigenstate in terms of creation operators and the vacuum you should be able to make use of this definition and unitarity of operators to obtain the transformation rule for creation operators.
 
Thanks for the hint. However, I'm still stuck/puzzled. I have

[tex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger |0\rangle = U(\Lambda)|k\rangle <br /> = |\Lambda k\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger |0\rangle ,[/tex]
and so, I would think [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger[/itex]. I'm not sure how the other transformation comes into play.
 
jackson1 said:
Thanks for the hint. However, I'm still stuck/puzzled. I have

[tex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger |0\rangle = U(\Lambda)|k\rangle <br /> = |\Lambda k\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger |0\rangle ,[/tex]
and so, I would think [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger[/itex]. I'm not sure how the other transformation comes into play.

You want to start from this line:
[tex]U(\Lambda)|k>=|\Lambda k>[/tex]

Your first instinct is correct. So, you can rewrite this line as:

[tex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger |0\rangle=\alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger|0\rangle[/tex]

Now, remember that [itex]U^{\dagger} U = 1[/itex], and that the vacuum is invariant. (i.e. All observers agree that there are no particles.)
 
I'm sorry for being so annoying but I still don't see it. When you say the vacuum is invariant do you mean [itex]U(\Lambda)|0\rangle = |0\rangle[/itex] and similar for [itex]U(\Lambda)^\dagger[/itex]?
 
jackson1 said:
I'm sorry for being so annoying but I still don't see it. When you say the vacuum is invariant do you mean [itex]U(\Lambda)|0\rangle = |0\rangle[/itex] and similar for [itex]U(\Lambda)^\dagger[/itex]?

Yes, that's it.
 
Ok, so then I can say [itex]U(\Lambda)|k\rangle = |\Lambda k\rangle[/itex] implies [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger |0\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger |0\rangle[/itex] and since the vacuum is invariant, [itex]U(\Lambda)^\dagger |0\rangle = <br /> |0\rangle[/itex], we have [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger |0\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger |0\rangle .[/itex] However, wouldn't we also be able to say, for ex., [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger |0\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger |0\rangle[/itex] or, for ex., [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger |0\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger U(\Lambda) |0\rangle ?[/itex]
 
jackson1 said:
Ok, so then I can say [itex]U(\Lambda)|k\rangle = |\Lambda k\rangle[/itex] implies [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger |0\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger |0\rangle[/itex] and since the vacuum is invariant, [itex]U(\Lambda)^\dagger |0\rangle = <br /> |0\rangle[/itex], we have [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger |0\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger |0\rangle .[/itex] However, wouldn't we also be able to say, for ex., [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger |0\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger |0\rangle[/itex] or, for ex., [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger |0\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger U(\Lambda) |0\rangle ?[/itex]

Not quite. Sorry, I misread your above post.

[itex]U(\Lambda)|0>=|0>[/itex] implies [itex]<0|U^{\dagger}(\Lambda)=<0|[/itex] not [itex]U(\Lambda)^\dagger |0\rangle = <br /> |0\rangle[/itex]

Use unitarity to insert lorentz operators inbetween the creation operator and the vacuum ket. Then make use of the invariance of the vacuum.
 
Ok, but now I have more questions :( . But first, let me just make sure I understand how to answer my original question. Skipping ahead, we have [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger U(\Lambda)|0\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger |0\rangle[/itex] which implies [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger[/itex]. My next question is, what happens if you act on the vacuum ket with [itex]U(\Lambda)^\dagger[/itex]. Also, why not stop once you know that [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger |0\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger |0\rangle[/itex], implying [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger[/itex]; that is, why do you want to conjugate (if this is the correct usage of the word) [itex]\alpha(k)^\dagger[/itex]. Finally, I should be able to find the analogous transformation for the annihilation operator, perhaps starting with bras, correct (Ticciati doesn't mention it so I'm not sure if something different might happen)?
 
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jackson1 said:
Ok, but now I have more questions :( . But first, let me just make sure I understand how to answer my original question. Skipping ahead, we have [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger U(\Lambda)|0\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger |0\rangle[/itex] which implies [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger U(\Lambda)^\dagger = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger[/itex].

Correct.

My next question is, what happens if you act on the vacuum ket with [itex]U(\Lambda)^\dagger[/itex].

I honestly don't remember. Perhaps someone else can chime in on this one? I never thought about it as the non conjugated Lorentz operator is what we care about when defining how transformations affect kets.

Also, why not stop once you know that [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger |0\rangle = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger |0\rangle[/itex], implying [itex]U(\Lambda)\alpha(k)^\dagger = \alpha(\Lambda k)^\dagger[/itex]; that is, why do you want to conjugate (if this is the correct usage of the word) [itex]\alpha(k)^\dagger[/itex].

You are confusing how kets transform and how operators transform. That definition of an operator transformation is inconsistent with kets that transform like [itex]U(\Lambda)|k\rangle=|\Lambda k\rangle[/itex]

Remember that we want to preserve the normalization of our kets. i.e. :

[tex]\langle k |k\rangle = \langle \Lambda k |\Lambda k\rangle = 1[/tex]

This will imply operator transformations like [itex]U(\Lambda )a^{\dagger}(k)U(\Lambda )^{\dagger}=a^{\dagger}(\Lambda k)[/itex] if the kets transform like [itex]U( \Lambda )|k\rangle=|\Lambda k\rangle[/itex]

Finally, I should be able to find the analogous transformation for the annihilation operator, perhaps starting with bras, correct (Ticciati doesn't mention it so I'm not sure if something different might happen)?

It follows directly from the work you just did. Just take the hermitian conjugate of the equation we just derived.
 
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Thanks so much for your help.
 
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##U(\Lambda)## is unitary, so ##U(\Lambda)^\dagger=U(\Lambda)^{-1}=U(\Lambda^{-1})## is another Lorentz transformation operator.
 
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Fredrik said:
##U(\Lambda)## is unitary, so ##U(\Lambda)^\dagger=U(\Lambda)^{-1}=U(\Lambda^{-1})## is another Lorentz transformation operator.

Of course! I should have known that! :redface:
 

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