Lorentz Force and Coulomb Force

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SUMMARY

The discussion focuses on calculating the forces between two identical point charges using both the Lorentz force and the Coulomb force. The Lorentz force equation, F = q(e + (U X B)/C), is applied to determine the interaction in a moving frame, while the Coulomb force equation, F = ke(q1q2/r^2), is transformed from the particle's rest frame to the moving frame S. Participants express uncertainty about incorporating the distance r and transforming the electric and magnetic fields appropriately, referencing specific educational resources for clarification.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Lorentz force and its components
  • Familiarity with Coulomb's law and its applications
  • Knowledge of electromagnetic field transformations
  • Basic grasp of relativistic effects and the Lorentz factor
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation of the Lorentz force in detail
  • Explore electromagnetic field transformations using covariant and contravariant forms
  • Learn about the implications of relativistic speeds on electric and magnetic fields
  • Review educational resources on electromagnetic theory, particularly the referenced slides from George Mason University
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Students and educators in physics, particularly those focusing on electromagnetism and relativistic mechanics, will benefit from this discussion.

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Homework Statement



In frame S, two identical point charges q move abreast along lines parallel to the x-axis, a distance r apart and with speed v. Determine the force in S that each exerts on the other:

a) using the lorentz force in conjunction with the field of a moving charged particle
b) by transforming the Coulomb force from the particle's rest frame to the frame S


Homework Equations


F = q(e + (U X B)/C)
F = ke(q1q2/r^2)

The Attempt at a Solution



For a) I am not sure how to incorporate r into the equation (i assume that u and v are the same for this problem...meaning I can use v in the equation instead of u. I think it has to do with the field of a moving charged particle, but I can't see how that relates in a way that I can use.

For b) I am not sure how that could be transformed. I know how to transform E and B using the covarient and Contravarient forms. And I don't see how the speed would fit into that...does it go back to the basic lorentz factor, that has v in it.
 
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okay I think I figured out the second one. It is a lot simpler than I was thinking. But 1, I still have no idea. My teacher's hint was use www.physics.gmu.edu/~joe/PHYS428[/URL] topic 6 slide 15. But I do not see how that would work out...
 
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