Lorentz Length Contraction Derivation

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the Lorentz length contraction equation within the context of special relativity. Participants are attempting to navigate the algebraic manipulation required to isolate variables in the equation presented in a video resource.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are exploring the rearrangement of a specific equation related to length contraction. There are attempts to find a common denominator and isolate the variable L'. Questions arise about the correctness of the initial equation and the steps needed to simplify it.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's observations and attempts. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need for a common denominator and grouping terms, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct path forward.

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There is mention of a potential mistake in the video resource, which may affect the understanding of the problem. Participants are also grappling with the algebraic complexity and the need for clarity in the steps involved in the derivation.

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In this video:

Special Relativity: Length contraction in more detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3ZqBt8KWVQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

for the derivation of Lorentz contraction equation at 2.48 the guy says, "I won't bore you with the details".

I'd appreciate is someone would please "bore" me with the details, as I'm struggling to do the algebra which he has not shown here in order to go to the next line.

Thank you
 
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If you look at the uploader's comments, he made a mistake in the video at that bit. The equation should be:
\frac{L'}{v+c} + \frac{L'}{-v+c} = \frac{2L}{c} \frac{1}{\sqrt{1- \frac{v^2}{c^2}}}

From here, you need to rearrange.
 
Well spotted BruceW, I hadn't noticed that.

I'm trying to arrange the formula you have above so it's equal to L'

I can't seem to manage it.

Concerning the LHS, I was thinking of multiplying (-v + c) with L', and multiplying (v + c) with L', and multiplying (v + c) with (c - v) to obtain (c^2 - v^2) as the denominator.
 
Yes, so on the LHS you want a common denominator so you can group the L' terms, then you can rearrange to get L' alone.
 
The1337gamer said:
Yes, so on the LHS you want a common denominator so you can group the L' terms, then you can rearrange to get L' alone.

I know denominator I have (c^2 - v^2) can be rearranged to become (c-v)(c+v) and I have both of these individually multiplied with an L' on the numerator.

Am I going about this the right way? I'm not sure what do do next.
 
What have you got so far? Have you grouped the L' terms?
 
Is L' equal to

[L(c-v)(c+v)] / [c^2 * (1-v^2/c^2)^0.5]
 

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