Lower center of mass creates more stability so how do you explain moving the center of mass upwards increases stability?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the center of mass (COM) and stability in martial arts movements. Participants explain that raising the COM, despite common beliefs about stability, can enhance balance by increasing the moment of inertia. This principle is illustrated through examples such as wire walkers and martial arts techniques, emphasizing that balance is maintained by adjusting the center of gravity (COG) through arm movements. The conversation concludes that while a higher COM may reduce stability, it can also facilitate better balance during dynamic movements.

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How is it possible that moving the center of mass upwards increases stability and not the opposite?
When you are doing certain movements in martial arts like kicking, you bring your arms up in order to balance yourself. Bringing your arms upwards also moves the center of mass (COM) upwards but if the COM is higher than the position should be less stable and not more stable. How do you explain the stabilizing effect of moving your COM upwards?
 
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You are increasing your moment of inertia.
 
John3022 said:
How do you explain the stabilizing effect of moving your COM upwards?
Have you ever seen a wire walker (e.g. the Great Wallenda) stroll across a wire with his arms down by his side? BALANCE matters more than COG.

EDIT: Hm ... that was not well put. Yes, balance is what's important, BUT ... you maintain balance by changing you COG, which you cannot do if your arms are by your sides. You have to be able to move your arms around to maintain your COG where it needs to be for you to not fall over.
 
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John3022 said:
When you are doing certain movements in martial arts like kicking, you bring your arms up in order to balance yourself.
Could you show us a specific movement?
How high are the arms brought up (shoulder level or way above)?
 
John3022 said:
How do you explain the stabilizing effect of moving your COM upwards?
Moment of inertia.
For a small boat, raising the centre of mass, lengthens the natural period of oscillation, and so makes it more comfortable, but reduces stability.

Longer pendulums swing slower.
 

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