Lp-Spaces: Proving (a) & (b) for Continuous f & Generalizing (a)

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The discussion revolves around properties of the linear operator \( M_f \) defined on \( L^2[0,1] \) for a continuous, complex-valued function \( f \). Participants explore conditions for the operator to be one-to-one, generalizations of certain results to functions in \( L^{\infty}[0,1] \), and implications of continuity on the operator's properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions what conditions on \( f \) would ensure that \( M_f \) is one-to-one, suggesting that this would simplify the results.
  • Another participant conjectures that \( M_f \) is one-to-one if the set of zeroes of \( f \) has measure 0, providing examples to illustrate this point.
  • Concerns are raised about the generalization of result (a) to functions in \( L^{\infty}[0,1] \), with a specific example provided that challenges the validity of result (b) under these conditions.
  • There is a discussion about whether a formal proof of the one-to-one condition requires continuity, with participants expressing uncertainty about generalizing to discontinuous functions.
  • Participants explore the implications of the continuity of projections and their closed range, with some affirming that the range of a continuous projection operator is always closed.
  • One participant expresses confusion about result (b) and requests a proof, indicating a lack of clarity on the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the conditions under which \( M_f \) is one-to-one and the implications of continuity on the operator's properties. There is no consensus on the generalization of results to discontinuous functions or the proof of result (b).

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the proof of result (b) may depend on the continuity of \( f \) and discuss the implications of measure theory in relation to the zeroes of \( f \). There are unresolved questions regarding the generalization of results to functions outside of the continuous case.

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I'm taking a course on Banach spaces and our lecturer proved the following result:

Let f be a continuous, complex-valued function on [0, 1] and define a linear operator [tex]M_f[/tex] on [tex]L^2[0,1][/tex] by [tex](M_f g)(x)=f(x)g(x)[/tex]. Then
(a) [tex]M_f[/tex] is bounded and [tex]||M_f||=||f||_{\infty}[/tex].
(b) Suppose that [tex]M_f[/tex] is one-to-one. Then the range of [tex]M_f[/tex] is closed if and only if [tex]f(x)=0[/tex] for all x∈[0,1]. In that case [tex]M_f[/tex] is one-to-one and
onto, and the inverse map is bounded.

I have two questions related to this result. First, is there any condition I can impose on f in order to make sure that the operator is always one-to-one, so (b) holds? I feel this would make the result nicer, but I can't think of anything that seems to work.

More importantly, the professor said (without proof - more as a passing remark) that you can generalize (a) to the case with f not necessarily continuous but in [tex]L^{\infty}[0,1][/tex]. Then he noted that the same isn't true for (b), but he didn't go into detail. Can anyone think of a concrete example as to why this generalization would not work?

I'd appreciate any help :).
 
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First, I'd like to say that b is quite a negative result. It proves that [tex]M_f[/tex] almost never has a closed range and is almost never bijective.

As for your one-to-one question. I conjecture that [tex]M_f[/tex] is one-to-one iff the set of zeroes of f has measure 0. For example, if f never becomes zero, then [tex]M_f[/tex] is injective and thus doesn't have closed range.

b is not true for [tex]f\in L^\infty[0,1][/tex]. Consider the function

[tex]f(x)=\left\{\begin{array}{cc} 1 & x=0\\ 0 & x\neq 0\end{array}\right.[/tex]

Then the function is not zero, but does have closed range.
A nice question is whether b holds if you replace "f=0" with "f=0 almost everywhere"?
 
Thanks a lot for your reply. I understand your arguing, but do you think a formal proof would require the continuity condition? I am curious as to whether this could be generalized to the case of discontinuous functions on [tex]L^{\infty}[0,1][/tex] as well.

And you're absolutely right. It's not the most rewarding result I've ever seen either.
 
I am sorry, the function f I provided is not good, since f=0 a.e., thus f=0 in [tex]L^\infty[0,1][/tex].

A better function would be

[tex] f(x)=\left\{\begin{array}{cc} 1 & x\leq 1/2\\ 0 & x> 1/2\end{array}\right.[/tex]

That said, I think that the proof of b does depend on the continuity of f...
 
Oh absolutely, and it does. Perhaps I should've been more specific with with my question. The proof I was referring to was a formal proof of the idea that [tex]M_f[/tex] is one-to-one iff the set of zeroes of f has measure 0. Could this be done without the notion of continuity of f? I'm kinda guessing the answer is yes, but I'm not sure how one would do it.
 
Well, let N be the set where f vanished.
Assume that N has measure 0. Take a g such that [tex]M_f(g)=0[/tex]. Then f(x)g(x)=0 for all x. Thus we have that

[tex]f(x)\neq 0~\Rightarrow~g(x)=0[/tex]

So, if f only becomes 0 on a set of measure 0, this yields that g is only nonzero on a set of measure 0. Thus g=0 in [tex]L^2[0,1][/tex].

On, the other hand, assume that N doesn't have measure 0. Take g the characteristic function of N, then g is not the zero function. But [tex]M_f(g)=0[/tex].
 
Thanks a lot for your time and effort. I'm pretty sure I get it.On a different, but somewhat related note, you know how the kernel of a continuous projection P=P² (or any other continuous linear operator) is closed? I seem to remember a very similar result for the range/image of a continuous projection? Meaning it's closed. Can you confirm this? I don't need a proof, it's just means to an end, and algebra isn't exactly my passion. :P
 
I think a linear operator is continuous iff it's kernel is closed.
Let f be continuous, then the inverse image of any closed set is closed. Thus [tex]f^{-1}(0)[/tex] is closed since {0} is closed.
The inverse implication is a lot less trivial (and I'm not 100% certain that it's true).
 
Yes, but is the range of a continuous projection not closed in general? Or maybe it has to be from a space into the same space? The kernel remark was just for perspective because I remembered that result.
 
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Ah yes, I understand. Indeed, the range of a continuous projection operator is always closed...
 
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That's what I thought. I thank you for all your patience and insight. I'm just a chemist trying to make it in the world of physics, so I salute people like you. :)
 
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micromass said:
I think a linear operator is continuous iff it's kernel is closed.
Let f be continuous, then the inverse image of any closed set is closed. Thus [tex]f^{-1}(0)[/tex] is closed since {0} is closed.
The inverse implication is a lot less trivial (and I'm not 100% certain that it's true).
It is true for linear functionals on any topological vector space.
 
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I wonder if somebody would care to present a proof of result (b) in Hjensen's original post. I have never seen that result before and I am probably missing something obvious but I cannot seem to make sense of it. It looks like one of those results that follows from the open mapping theorem or something similar, but I may be wrong.
 
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Edit: False alarm. I thought I had figured it out, but I hadn't. I would still like to see a proof if Hjensen or anyone else could be bothered.
 
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