Lunar Geothermal Energy: Is it Usable?

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The discussion centers on the potential for geothermal energy on the Moon, exploring whether any sources of heat, such as nuclear decay, could be harnessed for human use. Participants examine the geological activity of the Moon, including the phenomenon of moonquakes, and consider the implications for geothermal energy availability.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that there may be sources of geothermal energy on the Moon due to nuclear decay, though the extent and usability of such energy are uncertain.
  • Others argue that the Moon is geologically dead, citing the low frequency of moonquakes and the lack of substantial geological activity as evidence.
  • One participant notes that moonquakes could be caused by various factors, including tidal forces and thermal expansion, but emphasizes that the exact cause remains unknown.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of internal heat sources on geological activity, with some suggesting that a lack of geological activity indicates minimal internal heat generation.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the existence of a molten mantle, referencing literature that questions the sources of moonquakes.
  • Comparisons are drawn between the Moon and Mars, with participants debating the geological activity of both bodies and the implications for geothermal energy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the geological status of the Moon and the implications for geothermal energy. While some assert that the Moon is geologically dead, others suggest that there may still be unexplored sources of heat. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the potential for usable geothermal energy.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in understanding the sources of moonquakes and the geological history of the Moon. There is also uncertainty regarding the density and distribution of heavy elements that could contribute to thermal energy.

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Are there sources of geothermal energy on the Moon? I imagine that there must be at least some nuclear decay that generates heat on the Moon. I don't know if any of it is sufficient for use as an energy source by humans.
 
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No, the moon is geologically dead.
 
Moonquakes have been recorded by instruments left on the surface by the Apollo missions. So there might be some geothermal energy, but the cause of moonquakes is not yet known. One theory is that the quakes are caused by landslides in crater walls, so that would mean no molten mantle.

Truth is, we really just don't know.
 
I'm going to disagree with Lurch - we're very sure the moon is geologically dead. We can quibble about "how dead is dead", but that's exactly what we are doing: quibbling.

There are moonquakes. Some are caused by tidal forces, some are caused by meteor impacts, and some are caused by thermal expansion and contraction of the lunar crust as it is alternately baked and frozen during the moon's long day and night. The type most like earthquakes are 28 events measured from 1969 to 1977 called "shallow moonquakes", which may be caused by (as Lurch said) by landslides in crater walls. These can register around a 5 on the Richter scale.

In any event, the rate of moonquakes is 28 over 8 years, or about 3.5 per year. In the last 365 days, the Earth saw 1637 earthquakes of that magnitude or higher. Put another way, looking at the 28 most energetic earthquakes in a similar period, the average energy is about 15,000 times larger on the earth.

So it's quite dead.
 
I'd have to give you that one, Vanadium. Some of the literature I've read says that we don't really know the source of those quakes, but a second look at the facts makes it pretty clear that it isn't evidence of a molten mantle. Always been something of a mystery to me; how our siezmometers register quakes when there's no evidence of tectonic movement.

Ok, it's dead, Jim.
 
I don't thing thermal energy from radioactive decay would require a geologically active moon. Surely heavy elements exist in some quantity however small it might be. I guess what I was wondering was whether these heavy elements existed in densities sufficient to create warm spots...I'm not quite sure how the process works here on the Earth, and I'm not sure how it would work if the heat here was exclusively from radio active decay.
 
If there were a substantial source of heat internal to the moon, it would drive geological activity. Since no substantial geological activity is measured, we know there's not a lot of internal heat being generated.
 
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If there were a substantial source of heat internal to the moon, it would drive geological activity. Since no substantial geological activity is measured, we know there's not a lot of internal heat being generated.

Couldn't I make the same claim about Mars, and conclude that the methane in the Martian atmosphere must have a biological origin?
 
Why? While Mars is probably nearing the end of it's geological activity, it's not known to be as dead as the moon, and there is some evidence of marsquakes.
 
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Perhaps more importantly; there is evidence of (relatively) recent vulcanism on Mars. The vulcanic cones are still standing. Some of the "rimless craters" on the moon are considered to be of vulcanic origin, but all of them appear to be very old.
 

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