Macbook 13.3 Pro vs Air: Price vs Performance for Research Needs

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparison of price versus performance between the MacBook Pro and MacBook Air, specifically focusing on models from recent years. Participants are considering these laptops for research purposes, emphasizing reliability and battery life over raw performance metrics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant highlights the reliability of MacBooks due to their use of higher-quality components and mentions the importance of having a laptop that lasts through multiple academic years.
  • Another participant notes the performance longevity of MacBooks, sharing their experience with an older model that still runs well but is limited by outdated OS capabilities.
  • There is a discussion about the price differences between various models, with one participant indicating a significant price gap between older and newer models, particularly between the 2012 and 2014 Pro models.
  • Concerns about battery life in older models are raised, with one participant sharing their experience of a first-generation Air that requires constant plugging in due to battery degradation.
  • Participants express uncertainty about the future pricing of MacBooks, with some suggesting that prices may not drop significantly until new models are released.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the reliability of MacBooks and the importance of battery life, but there are differing opinions on the price-performance ratio and the implications of purchasing older models versus newer ones. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best choice for specific research needs.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of concern about the longevity of older models and their performance capabilities, as well as uncertainty about future pricing trends. There is no consensus on the ideal model for research purposes.

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I'm looking into getting a laptop this summer if I'm able to get into an REU. I was looking at macbooks, just because they are reliable, have long battery life, and still has the power I need for programs like Mathematica or Sage, since it will be used for research, the computing will probably be heavier than your average calculus class.

Can anyone speak towards the price vs. performance between the newest 13.3" Pro vs the previous model or the 13.3" air, or even previous model air?

Basically I'm looking at 4gb of ram and 128gb ssd. All models I'm considering have the 2 core i5, different generations, obviously.

Keep in my mind, this isn't a question about Mac vs PC price vs performance. I know I could get a much more powerful windows laptop for the same price. My main concern is reliability. I need this laptop to last me through my program, my last academic year, and then most of the way through grad school. So at least 3 years.
 
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Generally, the Macbooks are more reliable, mainly because they use more expensive components. Their latest incarnation of OSX is way better than it was a couple of years ago. But - after 3 years, you are stuck with a 3 year old CPU, graphic card, memory etc.

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So then probably wouldn't consider anything earlier than 2012?
Seems like there is about a $200-$400 difference between the '12 pro and an equivalent new '14 pro. But these '12s are pretty much all used or "refurbished"

And only about a $100-$200 difference between the '13 and '14 models.

And also a new air vs pro there is about a $100, if I decided to just go brand new, I feel like I would just spend the extra $100 for the pro.
 
Mac performance is usually very good for many years. I have a first gen Air and it still runs great. Only problem is I can't advance OS past Mountain Lion.
 
I've thought about a used mac, but I was worried about battery life, but your Air's battery life is still good?
 
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I've thought about a used mac, but I was worried about battery life, but your Air's battery life is still good?
No it's bascially dead and has to be plugged in :D
 
That is a bit unsettling, how old it is?
 
MostlyHarmless said:
That is a bit unsettling, how old it is?
First generation, so made in late 2008
 
I imagine the newer models' batteries last longer, but how long ago did you notice your battery start to go?
 
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MostlyHarmless said:
I imagine the newer models' batteries last longer, but how long ago did you notice your battery start to go?
Yeah I wouldn't worry about it. Noticed 2 years ago.
 
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Cool, thank you for your input. I still have a few months before I need to get one, but I can't help but start shopping early. Hopefully prices will go down a bit by then.
 
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MostlyHarmless said:
Hopefully prices will go down a bit by then.
I wouldn't bet on it. Apple hold prices pretty well until the next product release.
 
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Yeah, that's what I'm hoping, that the 2015 models will be out before the summer.
 
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That's a good strategy if you can wait. I've bought most of my Macs when they were on sale after a successor model was announced.
 

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