Magnetic Field Between Coaxial Cylinders

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The discussion focuses on calculating the magnetic field (B) between two concentric perfectly conducting cylindrical shells of radii a and b, connected by a resistor and a battery. The current (I) flowing in opposite directions along the cylinders is determined by Ohm's Law (I = V/R). Participants emphasize using the integral form of Ampere's Law, specifically the equation \(\oint \vec B \cdot \vec{d\ell} = \mu_0 I_{pen}\), to derive the magnetic field, noting that the field inside the cylinders is zero and that the field between them is solely due to the inner cylinder. The discussion concludes that assuming radial symmetry simplifies the calculation significantly.

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Homework Statement


Two long thin concentric perfectly conducting cylindrical shells of radii a and b (a<b) are connected together at one end by a resistor of resistance R, and at the other by a battery that establishes a potential difference V. Thus, a current I=V/R flows in opposite directions along each of the cylinders.

Using Ampere's law, find the magnetic field B in between the cylinders.


Homework Equations


Ampere's Law: \nabla \times B = \mu (J +\epsilon \frac{\partial{E}}{\partial{t}})


The Attempt at a Solution



Assuming I have got what I think is Ampere's law correct, I'm really not sure where to go on this one - I know we can infer a few assumptions about the fact the shells are 'perfectly conducting' but I'm not sure what exactly, and so I don't know how exactly to proceed - is J uniform, for example?

In addition, once I have an equation in Ampere's law, do I have to solve things component-wise to get B out of Curl(B) or is there a smarter way to do it?

I'm revising for an exam on Tuesday and I'm really stuck on this one so any help would be appreciated as urgently as you can manage!

Many thanks :-)
 
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yes, assume uniform J.

you'd better use the integral form of ampere's law.

the field between the two cylinders would be the field due to the inner cyl only.

(the field inside a cylinder is zero.)
 
graphene said:
yes, assume uniform J.

you'd better use the integral form of ampere's law.

the field between the two cylinders would be the field due to the inner cyl only.

(the field inside a cylinder is zero.)

The conclusion in parentheses is a product of the integral form of Ampere's Law:

\oint \vec B \cdot \vec{d\ell}} = \mu_0 I_{pen}

where I_{pen} is the current that penetrates whatever surface you attach to your loop (With the sign of the current determined by the right hand rule and the direction you choose to march in).

In this problem you can assume radially symmetry for \vec B which makes it especially simple since you don't need to use the concept of current density at all.

What makes coaxial cables interesting isn't the field inside, but rather the field outside, use Ampere's Law to find that, and you may be surprised. ;)
 

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