Magnetic Force on a Current Carrying Wire

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The discussion revolves around the magnetic force acting on a current-carrying wire placed in a uniform magnetic field. Participants are exploring the direction of the magnetic field when the force on the wire is at its maximum, with specific reference to the right-hand rule and the orientation of the current.

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  • Participants are examining the application of the right-hand rule to determine the direction of the magnetic field based on the current's direction and the resulting force. There are questions about the assumptions made regarding the orientation of the magnetic field and the implications of the force being maximum.

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Some participants are providing guidance on the correct application of the right-hand rule and discussing the necessary conditions for maximum force. There appears to be an ongoing exploration of different interpretations regarding the direction of the magnetic field.

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There is mention of a figure and relevant equations that have been uploaded, which may contain critical information for understanding the problem. Additionally, participants are reflecting on the implications of charge polarity and the geometry of the situation.

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The figure shows a current i through a wire in a uniform magnetic field , as well as the magnetic force acting on the wire. The field is oriented so that the force is maximum. In what direction is the field?

I have uploaded the figure, and the relevant equations.

My reasoning:
-L is in the direction of i.
-Assume i is a positive value.
Therefore, B is in the direction of +y.

However, the key says the answer is -y.

Why is that?
 

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You're doing the right hand rule incorrectly. Your thumb needs to be pointing in the direction of the magnetic force. When you do this and orient your fingers to point in the direction of i in the picture, you will see that they curl down, in the -y direction.
 
taliaroma said:
The figure shows a current i through a wire in a uniform magnetic field , as well as the magnetic force acting on the wire. The field is oriented so that the force is maximum. In what direction is the field?

I have uploaded the figure, and the relevant equations.

My reasoning:
-L is in the direction of i.
-Assume i is a positive value.
Therefore, B is in the direction of +y.

However, the key says the answer is -y.

Why is that?

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Think about it this way:

What has to be the orientation of L and B in order for the force to be the maximum? What does theta have to be? I am assuming you understand that it is perpendicular since you narrowed it down to the y direction. Now you have two choices, either the + y direction or the - y direction. Assuming you have a positive charge and the force is out of the page in z direction (thumb points out of the page, fingers point in direction of current towards left, -x direction, now which way do your fingers naturally naturally curl?). This is the direction of the magnetic field (assuming its not changing and is uniform). Does that make sense?
 
sona1177 said:
Think about it this way:

What has to be the orientation of L and B in order for the force to be the maximum? What does theta have to be? I am assuming you understand that it is perpendicular since you narrowed it down to the y direction. Now you have two choices, either the + y direction or the - y direction. Assuming you have a positive charge and the force is out of the page in z direction (thumb points out of the page, fingers point in direction of current towards left, -x direction, now which way do your fingers naturally naturally curl?). This is the direction of the magnetic field (assuming its not changing and is uniform). Does that make sense?

Yes, that's very helpful. Thank you!
 

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