Magnetic moment of the Muon and Tau

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The discussion revolves around the magnetic moments of the Muon and Tau particles, comparing them to the electron's magnetic moment. Participants explore theoretical predictions, measurements, and the implications of these values within the framework of particle physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the magnetic moment of the Muon can be assumed to be -1.00116592089 μB based on its anomalous magnetic dipole moment.
  • Another participant notes that the Tau does not have a listed magnetic moment or anomalous magnetic dipole moment on Wikipedia and cites a theoretical prediction for the Tau's anomalous magnetic moment.
  • A participant mentions that the MEG experiment has significantly improved measurements related to the Muon's magnetic moment.
  • One contributor clarifies that only the electron has a magnetic moment close to 1 Bohr magneton, while the Muon and Tau have much smaller magnetic moments, providing a formula for the Dirac value of the magnetic moment.
  • Another participant suggests revised estimates for the magnetic moments of the electron, Muon, and Tau, and questions the interpretation of the Muon's magnetic moment in relation to the electron's.
  • A later reply introduces a hand-waving argument regarding the relationship between angular momentum and magnetic moment for elementary particles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the magnetic moments of the Muon and Tau, with no consensus reached on their exact values or the implications of the theoretical predictions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific values and their interpretations.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the limitations of existing resources, such as Wikipedia, and the challenges in measuring the Tau's magnetic moment due to its short lifetime. There is also a dependence on theoretical models that may not be universally accepted.

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For the electron, wiki lists its magnetic moment as −1.00115965218076(27) μB. It does not list it for the Muon or Tau. Wiki does show for the Muon the Anomalous magnetic dipole moment of 0.00116592089. Is it correct to assume the magnetic moment of the Muon is -1.00116592089 μB?

For the Tau, wiki does not show either a magnetic moment or an anomalous magnetic dipole moment. What is the magnetic moment of the Tau?

A google search produces results like http://arxiv.org/pdf/hep-ph/0702027v1.pdf but unfortunately, the article is beyond my pay grade for understanding.
 
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zincshow said:
For the Tau, wiki does not show either a magnetic moment or an anomalous magnetic dipole moment. What is the magnetic moment of the Tau?

Regarding the anomalous magnetic moment of the tau, this paper says,

Theoretically, the standard model predicts aτ = 1.1769(4) x 10−3

(Since the tau has such a short lifetime, aτ can't be measured by the usual means, so the paper is mainly devoted to clever, indirect ways to do it.)
 
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Muon: Right

The MEG experiment is much more sensitive than the upper limit on the branching ratio used in the paper, so the measurements improved since then (>2 orders of magnitude).
 
Great thanks, wonder why wiki doesn't just say:

Electron: −1.00115965218076(27) μB
Muon: -1.00116592089 μB
and Tau: -1.0011769 μB
 
Strictly speaking, it's only the electron that has a magnetic moment close to 1 Bohr magneton. The other charged leptons (electron flavors) have much smaller magnetic moments. That's because the Bohr magneton is the Dirac value of the electron's magnetic moment. In general, the Dirac value is
q/(2m)

for charge q, mass m, hbar = c = 1

The anomalous magnetic moment a is defined be

(magnetic moment) = (Dirac magnetic moment) * (1 + a)

So (MM, muon) ~ 1/200 * (MM, electron) and (MM,tau) ~ 1/1800 * (MM, electron)
 
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Thanks for the message, it is different from the others and makes sense to me. You are suggesting the better estimates would be:

Electron: about −1.0 μB
Muon: -0.005 μB
and Tau: -0.0005 μB

Also, given the confusion in the answers, do you know any online references I could use? Would not it make more sense for the Muon to be 200 * (MM electron) rather then 1/200 * (MM electron)? Ie. wouldn't it be a lot harder to flip a Muon then it is to flip an Electron?

Much appreciate the help with this.
 
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Another case of macroscopic intuitions causing trouble. I'll give a hand-waving argument for an elementary particle's magnetic moment.

Angular momentum J = m*((r)x(v))
Magnetic moment mu = (1/2)*q*((r)x(v))
mu = (q/(2m))*J
for (charge distribution) ~ (mass distribution)

Strictly speaking, mu = g*(q/(2m))*J

For orbital angular momentum, g = 1
For an elementary fermion's spin, g = 2
 

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