Magnitude of Acceleration and Work

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a 5kg box sliding up an inclined plane at a 30-degree angle, with initial speed and friction considered. Participants are tasked with determining the magnitude of acceleration and the work done by gravity as the box comes to a stop.

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  • Participants discuss setting up free-body diagrams and breaking down forces into components. There are attempts to calculate forces in both the x and y directions, with some confusion about the relationships between these forces and the resulting acceleration.

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Some participants have provided calculations and insights into the forces acting on the box, while others express confusion about specific steps and concepts. There is acknowledgment of the need to clarify the distinction between magnitude and direction in vector quantities.

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Participants note the lack of certain information, such as examples from their notes that could aid in understanding the problem setup. There is also mention of previous examples involving downward slopes, which may not directly apply to the current scenario.

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Can someone help me
A 5kg box slides up an inclined plane surface, with an initial speed of 5.00 m/s. The plane makes a 30 degrees angle with horizontal. The coefficient of friction is .137. Assume g = 9.80 m/s^2.

A) what is the magnitude of the acceleration of the box?

B) What is the total work done by gravity on the box, from the start position, when the box has come to a stop?
 
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what have you tried so far?
 
Ive tried finding the distance but could not
 
well so the first thing you'd want to do with a problem like this is set up a free-body diagram for the box

in that diagram you should break up the force due to gravity into its components and then also figure out the force due to friction

once you have the components of the force in the x-direction you can determine the net force in that direction and get the acceleration
 
Fy = 0
mg cos (30)

Fx =
ma + coefficient + mg sin (30)

What do you do after this?
 
For my X component I got a 55.3136
 
well so in the x direction you should have two forces: the force due to friction and the weight of the object that is parallel to the surface

the force due to friction is related to the normal force, and the normal force is equal to the weight of the object that is perpendicular to the surface
 
I am still confused can you show me what you mean?
 
do you have any examples from your notes where your teacher did an object on an incline?
 
  • #10
No he only declining with more information
 
  • #11
he did an object on a downward slope, you mean?
 
  • #12
Yep
This is what I did for my calculation:
Fy = N - mg cos (30) = 0
N = mg cos (30)
N = 42.4352
Fx I did:
(42.4352x .137) x (5x9.8) x sin(30)
and got 142.434
x direction you should have two forces: the force due to friction and the weight of the object that is parallel to the surface
How do you calculate that
 
  • #13
well so where you calculate Fx it seems like you've got mgsin(theta) which is the weight of the object that is parallel to the surface

the frictional force is also there where you multiply the normal force by the coefficient of friction

but it seems like you multiplied the frictional force by the parallel weight; what you want to do is *add* them together. But of course remember that they are both negative, because they are pointing in the opposite direction of the velocity of the box.
 
  • #14
So
-mg sin(30) - mew = max
-mg sin (30) - .137 mg cos (30) = max
So the m cancels on both side
-g sin (30) - .137 g cos (30) = ax
acceleration = -6.063

For the total work done by gravity on the box
W = F (cos (30))
V^2 = Vo^2 + 2ax
0 = 5^2 + 2 (-6.063)x
= 25 + (-12.126) x
X= 2.06
W = mg (cos 30) 2.06
W= 5 (9.8) (cos 30) 2.06
W = 87.48813 J

Is this right?
 
  • #15
yes it looks good

but just remember that in part a it asks for the *magnitude* of the acceleration
 
  • #16
What do you mean by that?
So the magnitude of the acceleration should just be 6.063
 
  • #17
remember that a vector has both a magnitude and a direction. In this case, there are only two directions: positive x direction (up the slope) and negative x direction (down the slope).

Since the acceleration is a vector, it has both a magnitude and a direction. In this case, the direction of the acceleration is always *down the slope*. So its direction is negative, but the magnitude of a vector is always just some number.
 

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