Magnitude of acceleration of block

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The discussion revolves around determining the magnitude of acceleration of a block on a frictionless inclined plane, given its mass and the angle of the incline. Participants are exploring the forces acting on the block and how to apply Newton's second law in this context.

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  • Participants discuss the forces acting on the block, including weight and normal force, and question how to calculate the net force. There are attempts to apply Newton's second law and confusion regarding the relationship between the normal force and weight. Some participants share their calculations and express uncertainty about their results.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on identifying forces and calculating net force. There is a request for clarification on calculations, and some participants are encouraged to share their work to identify errors. Multiple interpretations of the forces involved are being explored.

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How do I find the magnitude of the acceleration of a block along a inclined plane?

I am given the mass of the block = 4.15kg on a no-friction inclined plane of an angle 30 degrees.
 
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What forces act on the block? Find the net force, then apply Newton's 2nd law.
 
What forces act on the block?

Would that be normal force which is the weight? (40.67? Am I right?)

Newton's 2nd law? F = ma

Can you explain that? How do I find F? m is given as 4.15. Am I right?
 
queenspublic said:
What forces act on the block?

Would that be normal force which is the weight? (40.67? Am I right?)
The normal force is one of the forces acting on the block, but it does not equal the weight.

The normal force acts perpendicular to the plane; the weight acts down. Draw a diagram and find components of the forces parallel and perpendicular to the plane.
 
My diagram has the normal force that keeps it up. The weight force pulling it down which opposite of normal force. And tension moving it forward. Am I right?
 
queenspublic said:
My diagram has the normal force that keeps it up. The weight force pulling it down which opposite of normal force.
No. If the weight were equal and opposite to the normal force, the block would just sit there.
And tension moving it forward.
Tension from what?

The weight force has components parallel and perpendicular to the incline. (What are those components?) The perpendicular component of the weight is equal and opposite to the normal force--so they cancel out. But that leaves the other component of the weight acting down the incline.

Read this: http://www.physicsclassroom.com/Class/vectors/u3l3e.cfm"
 
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Okay...so I used the m*g*sin30

m = 4.15
g = 9.8

and I still got the wrong answer.

then i divided by mass again and got wrong answer again.
 
We need more information to understand what has gone wrong. Show your calcs for normal force, friction force and force along the ramp. Finally, your F=ma calc to find the acceleration.
 
queenspublic said:
Okay...so I used the m*g*sin30
OK, that's the net force acting on the block.

m = 4.15
g = 9.8

and I still got the wrong answer.
Wrong answer for what?

then i divided by mass again and got wrong answer again.
If you want to find the acceleration, divide the net force by the mass. (F = ma → a = F/m.)

That's really all there is to it, assuming you've described the full problem exactly as it was given to you. If you are still not getting the right answer, please post the original problem word-for-word, including any diagrams given.
 

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