Magnitude of Cross Product Mismatch

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The magnitude of the vector product w x u, where w = <1,0,1> and u = <1,1,0>, is calculated using the formula ||w x u|| = ||w|| ||u|| sin θ. The correct value for cos θ is 1/2, which indicates that θ = π/3, not π/4 as initially assumed. This correction leads to the accurate calculation of the magnitude, which resolves the confusion presented in the homework discussion.

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Homework Statement



Find the magnitude of the vector product w ⃗x u, where w=<1,0,1> and u=<1,1,0>.


Homework Equations



||w x u|| = ||w|| ||u|| sin θ


cos θ = \frac{w.u}{||w|| ||u||}

The Attempt at a Solution


w ⃗x u ⃗= -i ̂+j ̂+k ̂
‖||w ⃗x u|| ⃗ ‖= √3

but

cos⁡θ= (w ⃗∙ u ⃗)/(‖||w|| ⃗||u||) ⃗ ‖ = 1/(√2 √2) implying ⟹ θ=\pi/4
which then makes
‖||w ⃗x u|| ⃗ ‖= ‖||w|| ⃗||‖‖u|| ⃗sin⁡θ
become
‖||w ⃗x u|| ⃗ ‖= √2 √2 sin⁡〖\pi/4
or the sqrt(2).

What's wrong here?
 
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4570562 said:

Homework Statement



Find the magnitude of the vector product w ⃗x u, where w=<1,0,1> and u=<1,1,0>.


Homework Equations



||w x u|| = ||w|| ||u|| sin θ


cos θ = \frac{w.u}{||w|| ||u||}

The Attempt at a Solution


w ⃗x u ⃗= -i ̂+j ̂+k ̂
‖||w ⃗x u|| ⃗ ‖= √3

but

cos⁡θ= (w ⃗∙ u ⃗)/(‖||w|| ⃗||u||) ⃗ ‖ = 1/(√2 √2) implying ⟹ θ=\pi/4
which then makes
‖||w ⃗x u|| ⃗ ‖= ‖||w|| ⃗||‖‖u|| ⃗sin⁡θ
become
‖||w ⃗x u|| ⃗ ‖= √2 √2 sin⁡〖\pi/4
or the sqrt(2).

What's wrong here?

You've got cos(theta)=1/2. That doesn't show theta=pi/4. It's not. What is it?
 
Thank you so much.
cos theta = .5 implies that theta is pi/3 , which would make it work both ways. I can't tell you how long I have been just staring at this problem. Thanks.
 

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