Magnus effect in flettner rotor

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The discussion centers on the application of the Magnus effect in Flettner rotors for boats, specifically exploring the potential for vertical rotors to generate lift. Participants confirm that lift, defined as the aerodynamic force perpendicular to free-stream flow, can indeed be achieved with a properly positioned rotor. The conversation also touches on the implications of rotor placement, suggesting that positioning closer to the bow may enhance lift while considering the risk of overpowering the rotor, which could lead to undesirable downforce. The Kutta–Joukowski theorem is referenced as a foundational concept in understanding the lift generated by rotating cylinders.

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  • Understanding of the Magnus effect and its applications in fluid dynamics.
  • Familiarity with the Kutta–Joukowski theorem as it relates to lift generation.
  • Basic knowledge of aerodynamic principles, particularly lift and downforce.
  • Experience with Flettner rotors and their design considerations in marine applications.
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Mr lee said:
hi -new but enjoyed years, wit and wisdom
Flettner rotor on a boat - ie. magnus effect

Can the vertical rotor create lift?

a curve balls 'laces' exaggerate and bend the magnus effect.
can you replicate this effect on a rotor?
--perhaps to enable another direction of force-- up
optimally I would like to gain lift -to the vertical -reduce downforce
I understand Kutta–Joukowski as it applies to a cylinder.

horizontal rotor?--unknown omidirectional sailing efficiency
ground effect used as a factor?
 
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sorry,meant to say thank you
 
Mr lee said:
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sorry,meant to say thank you
my purpose for asking is ;where to put the rotor?
a conventional sail creates lift, so is mounted nearer the bow
 
Mr lee said:
my purpose for asking is ;where to put the rotor?
a conventional sail creates lift, so is mounted nearer the bow
I;m afraid, if the rotor becomes overpowered, it will drive the bow(s) under
 
Mr lee said:
Flettner rotor on a boat - ie. magnus effect

Can the vertical rotor create lift?
Yes, lift is the aerodynamic force component perpendicular to the free-stream flow.
 
awesome, just what was needed. thank you
 

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