Make a very simple mechanical time delay?

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a simple mechanical time delay mechanism. Participants explore various ideas and components that could achieve a delay of 2-5 minutes while being compact and inexpensive. The conversation includes considerations of different mechanical systems and their applicability to the proposed design.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a wind-up toy as a potential starting point for the design, emphasizing the need for a small and cheap solution.
  • Another participant questions the specifics of the application, asking about the nature of the load and the distance it needs to be pushed.
  • A dashpot is proposed as a possible solution, with some participants discussing its types and how they could be adapted for the time delay mechanism.
  • One participant mentions that while some dashpots may not provide the necessary force, hydraulic dashpots could be a viable option, although they may exceed the budget constraint.
  • Another participant expresses enthusiasm for the dashpot idea, noting its adjustable timing feature and considering a clock timer as an alternative.
  • A hypodermic syringe is suggested as a potential component that meets some of the design criteria, although it may have issues with static friction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the potential of using a dashpot for the time delay mechanism, but there is no consensus on the best approach or component to use. Multiple competing views and suggestions remain, with ongoing exploration of various ideas.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the exact specifications needed for the load and the effectiveness of different components. The discussion includes limitations related to budget constraints and the need for adjustable timing features.

supak111
Messages
47
Reaction score
1
Hey everyone, I need to make or design a simple mechanical time delay. This probably isn't easy since I can't find anything on the market that's small and cheap. Was thinking some wind up toy might work, haven't found the right one yet.

I was thinking maybe small box with a rod coming out of it (but open to ideas). If you push the rod all the way in it should take time for it to come out, maybe 2-5 minutes.

HOPING TO ACHEAVE:
~ Cheap under $3 but hopefully cheaper.
~ Small (hopefully smaller than a pack of cigarettes)
~ Needs to go in fast so no mechanical gearing on the way in.
~ Comes back out very slow 2-5 mins.
~ Needs to be able to push 1lb (maybe less not sure at the moment)

Does anyone have any ideas?

PS even a battery powered one would be ok if cheap. Haven't found anything similar already manufactured still.

.
 
Engineering news on Phys.org
supak111 said:
Hey everyone, I need to make or design a simple mechanical time delay. This probably isn't easy since I can't find anything on the market that's small and cheap. Was thinking some wind up toy might work, haven't found the right one yet.

I was thinking maybe small box with a rod coming out of it (but open to ideas). If you push the rod all the way in it should take time for it to come out, maybe 2-5 minutes.

HOPING TO ACHEAVE:
~ Cheap under $3 but hopefully cheaper.
~ Small (hopefully smaller than a pack of cigarettes)
~ Needs to go in fast so no mechanical gearing on the way in.
~ Comes back out very slow 2-5 mins.
~ Needs to be able to push 1lb (maybe less not sure at the moment)

Does anyone have any ideas?

PS even a battery powered one would be ok if cheap. Haven't found anything similar already manufactured still.

.
Can you sam more about the application? Is the 1lb load on low-friction rollers, or do you need 1lb-f applied through the whole movement of the arm? How far do you need to push the load?

You could start with a basic egg timer and adapt it maybe...

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.ne...g_timer.png/revision/latest?cb=20110402182025
latest?cb=20110402182025.png
 
A dashpot?
 
Asymptotic said:
A dashpot?
Interesting idea. Like with a weight to drive it?
 
berkeman said:
Interesting idea. Like with a weight to drive it?
Not necessarily, but not a bad thought, either. Dashpots come in a wide variety of types and ratings, for example, an air dashpot like those used in automotive carburetors may not provide 1 lb of force, but one based on hydraulics ought to. Outside of carbs, the only hands-on experience I have with them are old-fashioned pneumatic timer relays like the Allen-Bradley bulletin 700-NT, but (although the under $3 criteria may not be obtainable) I bet Google would turn up something to fit the bill.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: berkeman
Thanks for your replies guys.

Dashpot sounds like a perfect idea especially since I won't have to modify it much. What makes the dashpot cool is most have adjustable timing like the dashpots on your house screen doors. Clock timer is a good one too if I can modify it to fit.

And the 1lb of push force might be over kill, I was just roughly estimating here. I'm going to do some searching and see if I can find a dashpot that's pretty cheap and small hopefully adjustable timing too.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: berkeman
supak111 said:
searching and see if I can find a dashpot that's pretty cheap and small
Not adjustable, but a hypodermic syringe meets the other qualifications. It does have a bit of static friction though.
 

Similar threads

Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
7K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 58 ·
2
Replies
58
Views
5K
Replies
23
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
2K