Help me design a simple time delay (not electrical)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around designing a simple mechanical time delay device that can hold a button or arm down for approximately two minutes before releasing it with enough force to push up a weight of about 0.5 lbs. Participants explore various mechanical concepts and components that could achieve this functionality without using electrical components.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a mechanical design could involve a cylinder, spring, air, and a one-way valve, similar to a screen door closer but inverted to allow for a slow release.
  • Another proposes using a jack-in-the-box mechanism where the output arm compresses a spring and is latched, with the latch released by a wind-up clockwork timer.
  • A participant mentions the possibility of using a dashpot, although this is noted to be potentially expensive and complicated.
  • One suggestion involves using a kitchen or toy timer mechanism, such as a de-thermalizer timer, which could be a low-cost option.
  • A participant expresses a preference against using a 555 timer due to its electrical nature and cost concerns, emphasizing the need for a solution under $1.
  • Another idea involves using sand or a similar dry powdery material that flows through a gap when a trapdoor is opened, allowing a spring to return the trapdoor to its original position once the material is depleted.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views and approaches to the design of the time delay device, with no consensus reached on a specific solution or method. Various mechanical concepts are discussed, but there is uncertainty regarding their feasibility and cost-effectiveness.

Contextual Notes

Participants express limitations regarding the complexity and cost of potential solutions, with specific requirements for the device's size and functionality influencing the proposed designs. There is also a focus on avoiding electrical components.

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Hey everyone I'm trying to design a simple time delayed device. Device could me mechanical but it doesn't really have to be as long as it does what I want.

Just need something that is relatively small could be wide and tall just not thicker then 1 inch.

The device should have a arm/button that you can push down (1 inch travel at least), when you push the arm/button down it should stay down for about 2 minutes and then come out and have enough push power to push up something that's about 1/2LB. The arm/button that does the pushing/work can come out slow or fast
 
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I smell a Hallowe'en prank!
 
No actually but now that you mention it, that sure would be a good device for Halloween. Do you have any ideas on how this could be achieved Dave?
 
I've been giving it some thought but nothing yet.
 
You could build a watch escarpment but that's not exactly simple
 
Yea. I was thinking maybe something with cylinder, spring, air and a one way valve. Kinda how the screen door closer works but flipped around. If I made the one way valve leak air a tiny little bit it would take a long time before the arm comes back
 
When you push the output arm down, it compresses a spring and then latches (jack-in-the-box mechanism). The latch is released by a wind-up clockwork timer.
 
dashpot
 
supak111 said:
mechanical but it doesn't really have to be as long as it does what I want.

There are lots of simple 555 timer kits on the market . Use one of those for timing and add a power stage or a relay .
 
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The simplest and cheapest non-electronic may be kitchen, toy (e.g. Tomy), or model airplane de-thermalizer timer (e.g. Tatone). Even cheaper is Silly Putty timer. The release string slowly drags through the putty.
 
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Don't really want to use 555 timer because its electric and won't be dirt cheap. Dashpot is too expensive and complicated, I want to keep this under a $1 if possible.

Lewis I found a lot of info on all 3 you suggested but can't really use them. My device MUST be easy/fast to push down but then it doesn't matter if it release slow or fast.

I had someone suggest a simple suction cup because he saw it used as a time delay in a bathroom paper towel dispenser. Idea like that sounds perfect but can't seem to find one that has 1" or move of travel for cheap.
 
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Maybe you could use sand or a similar dry powdery material.
When you open a trapdoor it will flow through the gap until it's all gone, and then a small spring pushes the trapdoor back to original position.
 

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