Making Ferrous Sulfate - Have I succeeded?

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The discussion revolves around the process of making ferrous sulfate using sulfuric acid and iron, including observations of the resulting solution and solids. Participants explore the chemical reactions involved, potential byproducts, and the materials used in the experiment.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their experiment with battery acid and an iron nail, noting a yellowish solution and yellow powder at the bottom, and asks if they have succeeded in making ferrous sulfate.
  • Another participant expresses doubt about the formation of ferrous sulfate due to oxidation in air, suggesting that the yellow-orange powder may be rust (Fe(III)).
  • A participant questions the material of the vial and suggests that sulfuric acid may not be the best choice for dissolving iron, recommending hydrochloric or phosphoric acid instead.
  • One participant speculates that the white solid could be zinc sulfate, considering the possibility that the nail was coated with zinc.
  • Another participant inquires about the condition of the nail (new or rusty) and mentions uncertainty regarding the solubility of iron sulfate in concentrated acid, suggesting that solid sulfate might be inhibiting the reaction.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether ferrous sulfate has been successfully produced, with some suggesting oxidation may have occurred. There is no consensus on the identity of the white solid or the best method for the reaction.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential limitations related to the purity of the acid used and the condition of the iron nail, which may affect the outcomes of the experiment.

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I acquired some Battery Acid, which is 35% sulfuric acid. I had poured some in a vial and dropped a iron nail in it. I had even heated the solution with a ligher, which caused cracks to form on the vials walls. After two days, I see a yellowish solution, with some yellow powder at the bottom. But at the cracks white crystalline substance is forming.
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It looks like this. Can you tell me if

1. have I succeeded in making ferrous sulfate?

2. what is the white substance?

3. If we evaporate the sulotion what is the decomposed material left. ( if I heat the solution and evaporate it what will happen to the ferrous sulfate.)
 
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What material is the vial made of?

I doubt you will be able to make ferrous sulfate - in the contact with air it gets oxidized quite fast to ferric (Fe(II) → Fe(III)). Red rust is already Fe(III).

Sulfuric acid is not the best acid to dissolve iron (nor rust). Hydrochloric and phosphoric are much better (they not only dissolve, but also complex the iron, which speeds up the reaction).
 
It is made of glass I suppose, yeah I think the yellow-orange powder is rust, but then why is the liquid yellow in color? BTW I put alluminium in the acid and nothing hapened to it, should I concentrate it or something?
 
Can the white solid be Zinc sulfate, since the nail migh be covered with zinc, as in the start it was bubbling vigorously, and then it ended and the nail was greyish.
 
nobody is helping me :P
 
Was the nail a new one, or a rusty one?

In both cases - I don't know what is the solubility of the iron sulfate in the concentrated acid, so it is possible that it just gets covered with the solid sulfate which slows the reaction down. Identity of the white solid can depend on the purity of the original acid.
 

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