Making T the Subject: V*T to the Power n = C

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The discussion centers around the algebraic manipulation of the equation V*Tn = C to isolate T as the subject. Participants explore various methods and rules related to exponents and logarithms, as well as address specific questions about the steps involved in the process.

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  • One participant asks how to make T the subject of the equation V*Tn = C.
  • Another participant suggests that if Tn = C, then T can be expressed as C1/n.
  • A participant questions the reasoning behind the transformation to C1/n and seeks clarification on the logarithmic properties used in the manipulation.
  • Another participant provides a detailed logarithmic approach to isolate T, showing the steps involving logarithms and exponents.
  • Questions arise regarding the interpretation of indices and power rules, particularly when n is a decimal, and whether T can simply be expressed as the n-th root of C.
  • Participants discuss the equivalence of raising to the power of 1/n and taking the n-th root, clarifying potential confusion about notation and variable representation.
  • Some participants express difficulty with the notation and suggest using specific bracket types for clarity in mathematical expressions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on the best method to isolate T, as participants present different approaches and express confusion over certain steps. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the clarity of the algebraic transformations and the interpretation of the rules involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential confusion regarding the use of different notations for variables (e.g., C vs. c) and the implications of using decimal values for n. The discussion reflects varying levels of comfort with algebraic manipulation and logarithmic properties.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students learning algebraic manipulation, particularly in the context of isolating variables in equations involving exponents and logarithms.

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Hi, could anyone show me how to make T the subject?

V*T to the power n = C

Thanks
 
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If
[tex]T^n = c[/tex]
then
[tex](T^n)^{1/n} = T = c^{1/n}[/tex]
 
Thanks compu, could you just explain the rule as to why it is C^1/n?

Thanks James
 
If n=0.3 Then T^3/10 so C would be the 10 root of C to the power of 3. Is that right? or am i getting my indices and power rules wrong?
Thanks for any help offerd

James
 
jamesd2008 said:
Thanks compu, could you just explain the rule as to why it is C^1/n?

Thanks James

Knowing that the logarithm of x^n is n times the logarithm of x:

[tex]VT^{n}=C[/tex]

[tex]T^{n}=\frac{C}{V}[/tex]

[tex]log \left[ T^{n} \right] = log \left[ \frac{C}{V} \right][/tex]

[tex]n log \left[ T \right] = log \left[ \frac{C}{V} \right][/tex]

[tex]log \left[ T \right] = \frac{1}{n} log \left[ \frac{C}{V} \right][/tex]

[tex]log \left[ T \right] = log \left[ \left( \frac{C}{V} \right)^{\frac{1}{n}} \right][/tex]

[tex]T = \left( \frac{C}{V} \right)^{\frac{1}{n}}[/tex]

Many thanks to all for bracket help.
 
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Thanks Timmay. Great explanation. Just a couple of things i don't get. Why is nLog(T)=Log(c/v) then become log (T)=1/nlog(c/v). And why is not just T^n=c becomes T=nroot of c?

Thanks for all your reply's a great help James
 
jamesd2008 said:
Thanks Timmay. Great explanation. Just a couple of things i don't get. Why is nLog(T)=Log(c/v) then become log (T)=1/nlog(c/v).
Because if AB=C then B=C/A?
I.e. primary school algebra :wink:

jamesd2008 said:
And why is not just T^n=c becomes T=nroot of c?
It is. Raising something to the power 1/n is the same as taking the n-th root (cf. a^(1/2) = sqrt(a) = 2root(a)).

[Just realized what the confusion might be: note that my c is not your C... you first have to rewrite V T^n = C to T^n = c to apply what I said. ]
 
timmay said:
Can't quite get the hang of brackets still, but you should be able to follow.

Try
Code:
\left( ... \right)
Rather than simply (...). \left[ \right] also works :)
 
Like this:
[tex]\left\{ \log\left[ \left(\frac{\left( C \right)}{V} \right)^{\frac{1}{n}} \right] \right\}[/tex]

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