Mars' orbital telescope and ice rock

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and implications of placing telescopes in orbit around Mars and the Moon to obtain high-resolution geological views. Participants explore the potential for identifying geological features such as stromatolytic fossils and ice formations on Mars, as well as similar investigations on the Moon and Earth.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose placing a telescope in Mars orbit to achieve resolutions of 6 inches to 1 foot, aiming to identify geological features like stromatolytic fossils and ice formations.
  • There is speculation that ancient Martian ice could be opaque to light and may resemble lightweight rock, raising questions about the presence of "ice rock" on the Martian surface.
  • Some participants question the existence of water on Mars, noting that meteorite samples have not yielded evidence of H2O.
  • One participant suggests that a resolution of 2 mm would be more effective for geological analysis, comparing it to the capabilities of a field geologist.
  • There are proposals for similar orbital telescopes on the Moon to investigate lunar rock ice and to create a geological database at high resolution.
  • The potential for using such technology for Earth exploration, particularly in remote areas, is also mentioned, including applications for anthropological studies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various hypotheses and proposals regarding the use of telescopes for geological exploration, but there is no consensus on the existence of water or ice on Mars, nor on the effectiveness of the proposed resolutions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the visibility and characteristics of Martian ice and rock, as well as the capabilities of telescopes in orbit, which remain unresolved.

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Might one place a telescope in Mars orbit, in order to obtain 6" to 1 ft resolution, looking for closeup geological views; such as mars' stromatolytic fossils, or mars' ice (rock) on the surface, in form of a smooth surface that seems a bit odd? Might billions year old Mars' ice be opaque to light, and take on the appearance of rock, but very light weight rock? So is there mars' ice rock on the surface? Do any of the Mars meteroites on Earth have in part Mars rock ice?
 
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cph said:
Might one place a telescope in Mars orbit, in order to obtain 2 mm resolution, looking for closeup geological views; such as mars' stromatolytic fossils, or mars' ice (rock) on the surface, in form of a smooth surface that seems a bit odd? Might billions year old Mars' ice be opaque to light, and take on the appearance of rock, but very light weight rock? So is there mars' ice rock on the surface? Do any of the Mars meteroites on Earth have in part Mars rock ice?

As noted 2 mm resolution (that of a field geologist) would be better. Also placing a Moon orbiter (rover-like) with a telescope, looking for Moon rock ice etc. For example, what appears to be a rock effacement, might continue into mottled appearance for near to reflected light. Thus a geological data base at 2mm resolution also for the Moon; equivalent to placing a geologist on the Moon.
 
cph said:
As noted 2 mm resolution (that of a field geologist) would be better. Also placing a Moon orbiter (rover-like) with a telescope, looking for Moon rock ice etc. For example, what appears to be a rock effacement, might continue into mottled appearance for near to reflected light. Such mottled appearance might be considered the definative sign of so-called rock ice. Thus a geological data base at 2mm resolution also for the Moon; equivalent to placing a geologist on the Moon.

Likewise one could put such rover orbiter, with 2mm resolution, for earth. Thus allowing for exploration of remote areas, such as east of Ural mts. Also perhaps useful for anthropological exploration for fossils in remote fields.
 

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