Mass wraps around rod in circular motion

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The problem involves a mass attached to a string that wraps around a rod while moving in circular motion, with the goal of finding the time taken for the string to completely wrap around the rod. The context includes concepts from dynamics and rotational motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of energy conservation principles, questioning how different terms arise in the equations. There are attempts to relate angular velocity and tangential velocity as the string wraps around the rod.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into energy conservation and its application to the problem. There is an ongoing exploration of the relationships between variables, but no consensus has been reached as one participant claims to have solved the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the derivation of certain terms in the energy conservation equation and the implications of constant tangential velocity versus changing angular velocity. The specific length of the string and its relationship to the time taken to wrap around the rod are also under consideration.

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Homework Statement


A string attached to the center of a rod with radius R has a mass attached at the other end, moving with speed v0. Because of acceleration due to gravity the mass moves down while undergoing circular motion, causing the string to wrap around the rod. Find an expression for the time taken for the string to completely wrap around the rod.




Homework Equations


v = rw


The Attempt at a Solution


-constant tangential velocity since acceleration due to gravity acts only downwards
-w = v/r, so as the string wraps around the rod, the angular velocity increases

w(t) = v0/r(t)

-w(t) is the same along all lengths of the string

-tried to figure out dr/dt, but to no avail
 

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use energy conservation, where x is the distance moved downwards by the mass, so

mgx = 1/2 mv^2 + 1/2 Iw^2

and use, w = v/r
 
supratim1 said:
use energy conservation, where x is the distance moved downwards by the mass, so

mgx = 1/2 mv^2 + 1/2 Iw^2

and use, w = v/r

hmm, i don't really understand how the term '1/2 Iw^2' comes about - the tangential velocity stays the same, all its doing is accelerating downwards

Loss in GPE = Gain in KE
mgx = 1/2 mvy^2 (in the y-direction)

I'm interested in finding out the time taken for a given string of length l to finish wrapping a rod of radius R entirely.

-at every point in time the mass is undergoing circular motion
-fixed tangential velocity, but increasing angular velocity
-in order to find the time taken to wrap around the rod, i must find an expression for dl/dt, where l is the length of the string. I imagine it to be some function of (r,v0 and t)
 
it's okay, i solved it! :)
 

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