Mastering Net Ionic Equations: Easy Tips and Common Mistakes to Avoid

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The discussion focuses on writing net ionic equations, including challenges faced by a participant in solving specific problems. The scope includes both precipitate reactions and redox reactions, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking guidance on common mistakes and tips for improvement.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster presents several sample problems and their attempted net ionic equations, requesting corrections and guidance.
  • One participant suggests breaking down reactions into ions, noting that only the solid precipitate should remain on the product side to identify spectator ions.
  • Another participant identifies that some reactions are redox, particularly mentioning the reaction involving concentrated hydrochloric acid and questioning the presence of Cl2- in the original poster's equation.
  • There is a mention of a specific rule regarding the reaction of copper with dilute nitric acid, indicating the production of copper(II) nitrate, nitrogen monoxide, and water.
  • Participants discuss the role of potassium permanganate as a catalyst in reactions, suggesting that it does not change while hydrogen peroxide decomposes into water and oxygen gas.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about some of the original poster's equations, particularly those involving chlorine and iron, and water and magnesium nitride.
  • Participants acknowledge the difficulty of predicting reactions and encourage the original poster not to be discouraged by mistakes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that some of the reactions presented are redox reactions, but there is no consensus on the correctness of all the original poster's equations. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding specific reactions and their classifications.

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Some reactions may depend on specific conditions or definitions that are not fully addressed in the discussion. The presence of redox reactions versus precipitate reactions is a point of contention.

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Net Ionic Equations! Please help me out!

i'm having a hard time with writing net inoic equations and here are some sample problems with the answers I came up with.

Please look over them and if somethings wrong, please correct the errors teach me how to fix it.

1. A strip of copper is immersed in dilute nitric acid

Cu + HNO3 -> Cu(NO3)2

2. Excess concentrated ammonia solution is added to a suspension of silver chloride.

Ag+ + OH- -> AgOH

3. Solution of tri-potassium phosphate and zinc nitrate are mixed

3Zn+ + (PO4)^-3 -> Zn3PO4

4. Concentrated hydrochloric acid is added to solid manganese (II) sulfide.
Mn^+2 + Cl2- -> MnCl2




and the rest of them below, I had no clue on how to even start

1. Potassium permanganate solution is added to an acidic solution of hydrogen peroxide

I got KMnO4 + H2O2 -> KMnO4 + H + O2^-2
but i hit the wall right here...
I'm guessing that the product is HMnO4 but I'm not confident at all.


2. Excess chlorine gas is passed over hot iron filings

Cl2 + Fe^2+ ? sorry..but i couldn't figure this one out either

3. Water is added to a sample of solid magnesium nitride

4. Excess sulfur dioxide gas is bubbled thru a dilute solution of potassium hydroxide





p.s. thank you so much for reading this. But if you have an extra time, would you give some tips on writing an ionic equations? or list some most common mistakes that students make when they first learn this?
 
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Im assuming this are for precipitate reactions and not redox... if this is the case this might help. http://www.ausetute.com.au/ppteeqtn.html
Break everything down to ions except the solid precipitate on the resultant side, then you know what your spectators are. Hope this helps

Steve
 
no...looks like there are some redox reactions in there too. Those last couple are definatly redox.
for #4, where did you get the Cl2-? Concentrated hydrochloric acid solution is H+ + Cl-.
I think that "Most chloride, bromide, and iodide salts are soluble with the notable exeptions of salts containing the ions Ag+ Pb2+ and Hg2+.
for the potassium permanganate one, a good rule to follow is that potassium permanganate is almost always a catalyst, and does not change, but your hydrogen peroxide will speed its way into decomposition into water and oxygen gas.
On the first #1, there is a specific rule for thes reaction which is "Copper reacts with DILUTE nitric acid to produce copper(II) nitrate, nitrogen monoxide, and water.
I'm not sure about the chlorine and iron one or the water and magnesium nitride one.
I can find no error in the rest of them, and please don't take it hard that some of your answers are not correct. It took me about a year to learn how to predict reactions to the ability that i can now, and obviously I still can't do them all. They are really tough.
 
mineys said:
no...looks like there are some redox reactions in there too. Those last couple are definatly redox.
for #4, where did you get the Cl2-? Concentrated hydrochloric acid solution is H+ + Cl-.
I think that "Most chloride, bromide, and iodide salts are soluble with the notable exeptions of salts containing the ions Ag+ Pb2+ and Hg2+.
for the potassium permanganate one, a good rule to follow is that potassium permanganate is almost always a catalyst, and does not change, but your hydrogen peroxide will speed its way into decomposition into water and oxygen gas.
On the first #1, there is a specific rule for thes reaction which is "Copper reacts with DILUTE nitric acid to produce copper(II) nitrate, nitrogen monoxide, and water.
I'm not sure about the chlorine and iron one or the water and magnesium nitride one.
I can find no error in the rest of them, and please don't take it hard that some of your answers are not correct. It took me about a year to learn how to predict reactions to the ability that i can now, and obviously I still can't do them all. They are really tough.

When i posted i don't even think those were there. I know there is no edit but i never saw those. But you are right those are definitely redox.
 

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