Mastering Number Rules in Brackets: Understanding a^n/m and a^1/n = n'root'a

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation and application of exponent rules, particularly focusing on expressions involving fractional exponents and their representation in calculators. Participants explore the implications of using parentheses and the correct input format for calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the equation a^1/n = n'root'a and discusses its validity with examples.
  • Another participant expresses confusion regarding the equation a^n/m = (a^1/m)^n = (m'root'a)^n, particularly when calculating 2^3/2.
  • Several participants note the importance of using parentheses correctly to ensure calculators interpret expressions as intended.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake in their calculations due to not using parentheses, leading to incorrect results.
  • There is a humorous exchange regarding the terminology of "brackets" versus "fractions," with one participant clarifying their earlier wording.
  • A later reply emphasizes that using parentheses can help avoid misinterpretation by calculators.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the confusion arises from calculator input and the use of parentheses, rather than the mathematical rules themselves. However, there is no consensus on the broader implications of the equations presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include potential misunderstandings of calculator functions and the need for clarity in mathematical notation, particularly regarding the use of parentheses in expressions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students learning about exponent rules, those using calculators for mathematical expressions, and anyone interested in clarifying the notation and interpretation of fractional exponents.

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My teacher gave us some rules about numbers in the power of brackets.

Like 2^1/2

It was: a^1/n= n'root'a

(instead of a square root (2'root') or cube root (3'root') it was n'root'.)

Anyway, that equation is correct, at least with the brackets i tryed it with. But when we get numbers that isn't "1/n", but "n/m" he gives us this equation:

a^n/m = (a^1/m)^n = (m'root'a)^n

This equation I can't make correct. For example: I do 2^3/2 on my calc, and it gives me this: "4"

I put it in the equation:

2^3/2 = (2^1/2)^3

When I write this new setup on my calc it gives me this: "1"

I put it in the other equation and do it on my calc:

2^3/2 = (2'root'2)^3

It gives me this: "2.8284..."

There are four possibilities:
- I must be doing it wrong
- The equation is incorrect
- My calc is broke
- The laws of mathematics have changed

I am terribly sorry for my topic, I just found out that I forgot to put the bracket power into these: ( )
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: I just leave it standing so it won't be spam until one of the mods deletes it... :frown:
 
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You are misusing the calculator

The third option is the correct answer.

The errors seem to be that you

1. cubed 2 to get 8 then divided 8 by 2 to get 4
2. You actually multiplied 2 by 1/2, rather than raising it to the power 1/2m, to get 1, then cubed 1.
 
yeah, I forgot the ('s...

So I raised the number to the power of 1 and then divided it by 2...
2^1/2
It really should stay like this: 2^(1/2)

When I do this it gets correct on my calc, sorry again...
 
Jarle said:
My teacher gave us some rules about numbers in the power of brackets.

Like 2^1/2

It was: a^1/n= n'root'a

(instead of a square root (2'root') or cube root (3'root') it was n'root'.)

Anyway, that equation is correct, at least with the brackets i tryed it with.
Brackets? Don't you mean just fractions?

But when we get numbers that isn't "1/n", but "n/m" he gives us this equation:

a^n/m = (a^1/m)^n = (m'root'a)^n

This equation I can't make correct. For example: I do 2^3/2 on my calc, and it gives me this: "4"

I put it in the equation:

2^3/2 = (2^1/2)^3

When I write this new setup on my calc it gives me this: "1"
Be careful about parentheses (Which really are a kind of "bracket". Was that what you meant?) If you enter 2^1/2 just as you have written, your calculator will interpret that as 2^1 = 2 and THEN divide by 2: (2^1)/2= 1 and, of course, the third power of that is 1. Use, instead, 2^(1/2)^3. That should give you 2.9294...


I put it in the other equation and do it on my calc:

2^3/2 = (2'root'2)^3

It gives me this: "2.8284..."

There are four possibilities:
- I must be doing it wrong
- The equation is incorrect
- My calc is broke
- The laws of mathematics have changed

I am terribly sorry for my topic, I just found out that I forgot to put the bracket power into these: ( )
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: I just leave it standing so it won't be spam until one of the mods deletes it... :frown:
You might have guessed it was the first of your four possiblities:rolleyes: !
But anyway, it is easy to fix. (A lot easier to fix than the fourth one would have been!)
 
Sorry, wrong word there, Indeed i meant "fractions" and not "brackets", or parantheses was it, is there any other kind of brackets? I didn't know.

Hehe, the last one was a joke :)
 
Do you still need help specifically with any of the mathematics or was it simply a calculator issue?
 
I don't need help, thank you :)
 
Just remember- there is no such thing as too many parentheses!
 

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