Matching conditions for solutions to the Schrodinger equation

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The discussion revolves around the conditions that wave functions must satisfy at discontinuities in potential when solving the Schrödinger equation, particularly in one-dimensional scattering problems. Participants explore the implications of continuity of the wave function and its first derivative, as well as the physical and mathematical reasoning behind these requirements.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the wave function must be continuous and that its first derivative must also be continuous at potential discontinuities to avoid infinite momentum and kinetic energy.
  • Others argue that the first derivative of the wave function is not always continuous, citing examples like the bound state of a delta potential, where discontinuities in the potential can lead to corresponding discontinuities in the first derivative.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of the continuity equation for the wave function, linking it to the conservation of momentum.
  • Another participant questions whether the continuity conditions are necessary in cases of infinite discontinuities in potential, such as infinite potential barriers and delta functions, suggesting that while mathematically valid, these scenarios may lack physical relevance.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity and implications of continuity conditions for wave functions at potential discontinuities. There is no consensus on whether these conditions hold universally, especially in the context of infinite potentials.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the discussion involves complex mathematical reasoning and assumptions about the nature of potentials, which may not be universally applicable. The relevance of infinite potentials in physical scenarios is also questioned.

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In standard, run-of-the-mill, one-dimensional scattering problems (e.g., finite square wells), we calculate transmission and reflection amplitudes by (in part) making sure that our wave function [itex]\psi[/itex] satisfies the following conditions at discontinuities of the potential:

(1) It is continuous;

(2) Its first derivative is continuous.

But why does it need to satisfy these conditions? Which of the postulates is violated if it doesn't?
 
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It's first derivative isn't always continous. Think about the bound state of a delta potential. This needs to happen because whenever there is a discontinuity in the integral over the potential, it must be balanced by a discontinuity in the first derivative of the wave function.

The wave function has to satisfy a continuity equation, which translates to conservation of momentum. This equation in one-dimensional coordinate space is [itex]\frac{d}{dt}|\psi (x,t)|^2 + \frac{d}{dx} j(x,t) = 0[/itex]
where [itex]j(x,t)=\frac{\hbar}{2im}\left( \psi^* \frac{d \psi}{dx} - \psi \frac{d \psi^*}{dx}\right)[/itex]

I would think this constaint is enough to fix the amplitudes of a given scattering potential.
 
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Because -ih ∂ψ/∂x = pψ and -h2/2m ∂2ψ/∂x2 = (E - V)ψ

If ψ were discontinuous at a point its first derivative would be infinite, and thus the momentum would be infinite. Likewise if ∂ψ/∂x were discontinuous its second derivative would be infinite, and thus the kinetic energy (E - V) would be infinite.
 
Bill_K said:
Likewise if ∂ψ/∂x were discontinuous its second derivative would be infinite, and thus the kinetic energy (E - V) would be infinite.

But this need not be the case when we have an infinite discontinuity in the potential, right? I have in mind especially infinite potential barriers and delta functions, in which the integral over the potential has a discontinuity.
 
espen180 said:
But this need not be the case when we have an infinite discontinuity in the potential, right? I have in mind especially infinite potential barriers and delta functions, in which the integral over the potential has a discontinuity.

That is mathematically correct, and it important for solving model problems in QM. However it has no physical relevance as far as I know, since I am unaware of any infinite potential barriers or delta functions in nature.
 

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