Material Models Sources: Ludwik, Holomon, Swift, Wok, etc.

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The discussion revolves around the search for primary sources that formulate material models, specifically those by Ludwik, Holomon, Swift, Wok, Ludwikson, Hill, and others. The focus is on the mathematical models of elastoplastic materials and their underlying rationale, intended for scientific research rather than academic assignments.

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  • Research-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests primary sources for various material models, indicating a need for foundational documents.
  • Another participant suggests contacting a material science lab for assistance, noting potential costs involved.
  • A participant clarifies that the documents are essential for research work aimed at analyzing existing mathematical models of elastoplastic materials, emphasizing the importance of understanding the rationale behind the equations.
  • The same participant mentions having published articles related to the Ramberg-Osgood model and states that several more articles are under publication.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for primary sources related to material models, but there is no consensus on specific sources or methods to obtain them. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to gather the required information.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights challenges in locating publications from the early 20th century and the necessity of understanding the context of mathematical models in elastoplastic materials.

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Need primary sources of all known empirical material models
Who can share the primary sources where material models are formulated: Ludwik, Holomon, Swift, Wok, Ludwikson, Hill and others?
 
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ntgolovina said:
Summary:: Need primary sources of all known empirical material models

Who can share the primary sources where material models are formulated: Ludwik, Holomon, Swift, Wok, Ludwikson, Hill and others?
That sounds like a pretty big research task. Can you show us what you have done so far? Also, is this for a schoolwork assignment? If not, why are you looking for this?
 
Maybe contact a material science lab and see what they can help you with. They might charge you though.
 
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These documents are really needed for research work. The aim is to analyze the existing mathematical models of elastoplastic materials. This requires not only knowing the equations themselves, but also understanding their rationale. This is not for school assignment, this is for scientific research.
If there is an opportunity to see the primary sources, I would be very grateful. It is difficult to find publications from the beginning of the last century.
The result of all scientific work should be the formulation of the original mathematical model of the material. Currently, one article has been published that analyzes the well-known Ramberg-Osgood model: Belov P.A., Golovina, New York (2019). Generalization of the Ramberg - Osgood Model for Elastoplastic Materials: Journal of Materials Science and Performance. https://doi.org/10.1007/s11665-019-04422-3.
and one more article: Belov P.A., Golovina N.Yu. (2019). The deformation curve as an extremal of some functional: Science and business: Paths of development, 10 (100), p. 44-52.
Several articles are under publication.
 
Joe591 said:
Maybe contact a material science lab and see what they can help you with. They might charge you though.
Thanks for the advice.
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF. :smile:

That sounds like a pretty big research task. Can you show us what you have done so far? Also, is this for a schoolwork assignment? If not, why are you looking for this?
These documents are really needed for research work. The aim is to analyze the existing mathematical models of elastoplastic materials. This requires not only knowing the equations themselves, but also understanding their rationale. This is not for school assignment, this is for scientific research.
If there is an opportunity to see the primary sources, I would be very grateful. It is difficult to find publications from the beginning of the last century.
The result of all scientific work should be the formulation of the original mathematical model of the material. Currently, one article has been published that analyzes the well-known Ramberg-Osgood model: Belov P.A., Golovina, New York (2019). Generalization of the Ramberg - Osgood Model for Elastoplastic Materials: Journal of Materials Science and Performance. https://doi.org/10.1007/s11665-019-04422-3.
and one more article: Belov P.A., Golovina N.Yu. (2019). The deformation curve as an extremal of some functional: Science and business: Paths of development, 10 (100), p. 44-52.
Several articles are under publication.
 

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