ANSYS Material Models: Compression vs Tension

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of materials under tension and compression in the context of non-linear analysis using ANSYS. Participants explore whether ANSYS mirrors tension data for compression scenarios and the implications of material properties on modeling approaches.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if ANSYS mirrors the tension stress-strain curve for compression when only tension data is provided.
  • Another participant notes that material behavior can vary significantly between tension and compression, particularly for ceramics and composites, while ductile metals may exhibit similar properties in both cases.
  • A participant emphasizes the distinction between "strength" and "modulus," indicating that yield strength and compressive strength do not necessarily reflect differences in tensile and compressive modulus.
  • There is a discussion about isotropic versus orthotropic materials, with a participant mentioning that ANSYS supports both types and that stress transformation techniques are typically employed for modeling tension and compression in ductile materials.
  • Participants outline the three material properties relevant for isotropic materials: Young's modulus, Poisson's ratio, and shear modulus, noting that only two of these are independent.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of materials under tension and compression, indicating that there is no consensus on whether ANSYS simply mirrors tension data for compression scenarios. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of material properties on modeling approaches.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the potential for confusion between strength and modulus, as well as the need for clarity on the specific material types being analyzed and their respective properties.

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Hello,
I am doing a non-linear analysis in ANSYS.
I have curve for the strain,stress curve for the material in tension, however, in the problem I'm working on I'm compressing the material. Does anyone know, if ANSYS just mirrors the material curve about origo as I have not given it data for compression but only tension?
 
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It depends on the kind of material you're analyzing. Some materials show very different properties in tension vs compression (ceramics, composites). Most ductile metals have similar performance in compression and tension, and so are not typically modeled with tension/compression material models.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compressive_strength#Comparison_of_compressive_and_tensile_strengths

Wikiepdia said:
Concrete and ceramics typically have much higher compressive strengths than tensile strengths. Composite materials, such as glass fiber epoxy matrix composite, tend to have higher tensile strengths than compressive strengths. Metals tend to have tensile and compressive strengths that are very similar.
 
You must be careful not to confuse "strength" and "modulus" for materials. The above statements are related to such things as "yield strength" or "compressive strength" which are related to the load/stress point at which a material will either transform from elastic to plastic deformation or suffer a tensile or compressive failure but do not necessarily imply or indicate that the tensile and compressive modulus (strain vs stress) is different.
 
JBA said:
but do not necessarily imply or indicate that the tensile and compressive modulus (strain vs stress) is different

I think what you're describing is an isotropic vs. orthotropic material yes? ANSYS and other FEA packages do support both isotropic and several orthotropic material models. However, stress transformation techniques are typically used for modeling tension/compression in a ductile material, such that Young's modulus and Poisson's Ratio are enough to model most isotropic materials. Compression forces (and in some cases torsional moments) will manifest as shear and out-of-plane stresses in this case.

Wikiversity.org said:
For an isotropic material we have to deal with three material properties of which only two are independent.

These material properties are
  1. The Young's modulus (also called the modulus of elasticity).
  2. The Poisson's ratio.
  3. The shear modulus (also called the modulus of rigidity).

compression-037.jpg
 

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