Math or physics class recommendation?

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for upper-level math or physics classes for a recent chemistry graduate preparing for PhD studies, particularly in physical chemistry. Participants explore various subjects that could enhance the graduate's mathematical and physical understanding before starting their advanced studies.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the graduate's current math background is sufficient and recommends a "Modern Physics" class or an introductory quantum mechanics course if they haven't taken one already.
  • Another participant questions the necessity of taking a differential equations (DE) class or Fourier analysis, suggesting that these topics should have been covered during the undergraduate degree and recommending self-study through a specific textbook instead.
  • A participant mentions their own experience with mathematical methods textbooks, suggesting several titles that could be beneficial for self-study, including works by McQuarrie and Mary Boas, as well as a chemistry math book by Erich Steiner that covers relevant topics.
  • There is a discussion about the possibility of auditing an advanced electricity and magnetism class, with one participant expressing intent to ask the professor about attending lectures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of formal classes for differential equations and Fourier analysis, with some advocating for self-study instead. There is no consensus on the best approach to take for additional learning.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that certain mathematical topics may have been assumed knowledge in the graduate's prior studies, which could affect the recommendations given. The discussion reflects varying opinions on the adequacy of the graduate's existing knowledge base.

Who May Find This Useful

Recent graduates in chemistry or related fields considering further studies in physical chemistry, as well as those seeking advice on supplementary math and physics coursework.

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This is sort of a two part question, so bear with me.

I just recently graduated with a BS in chemistry, and I applied to a couple PhD programs for next fall (I deliberately waited until after graduating to apply to graduate school for a number of reasons!). I'm working a part time job right now (chemistry related) which I very much enjoy, but I'm not entirely sure how long it will last.

Anyways, this spring I was thinking of seeing if I could sit in or audit some kind of upper level math or physics class, just so I could pick up a few things before I start graduate school (assuming I get in somewhere!). I was wondering if any of you have suggestions as to what kind of class I should take. I'm probably going to do physical chemistry in graduate school. Also, I graduated with a math minor, so I have 3 semesters of calculus, discrete math, and linear algebra under my belt. I'm thinking of maybe looking into a class where I could learn some things about say, for example, differential equations, or Fourier analysis.

Any suggestions?
 
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Your math is probably OK for the time being. For a physics class, I would recommend a good "Modern (20th century) Physics" class if you haven't had one already. If you have had such a class, then I would recommend an intro to quantum mechanics course.
 
-DB said:
This is sort of a two part question, so bear with me.

I just recently graduated with a BS in chemistry, and I applied to a couple PhD programs for next fall (I deliberately waited until after graduating to apply to graduate school for a number of reasons!). I'm working a part time job right now (chemistry related) which I very much enjoy, but I'm not entirely sure how long it will last.

Anyways, this spring I was thinking of seeing if I could sit in or audit some kind of upper level math or physics class, just so I could pick up a few things before I start graduate school (assuming I get in somewhere!). I was wondering if any of you have suggestions as to what kind of class I should take. I'm probably going to do physical chemistry in graduate school. Also, I graduated with a math minor, so I have 3 semesters of calculus, discrete math, and linear algebra under my belt. I'm thinking of maybe looking into a class where I could learn some things about say, for example, differential equations, or Fourier analysis.

Any suggestions?

I guess you should have learned DE and Fourier Analysis during your BS degree. Personnally I won't advise you to waste your money if you want to learn just DE and Fourier Analysis. Why not just buy Mathematical Methods for Sicentists and Engineers? It may help.
 
kuruman said:
Your math is probably OK for the time being. For a physics class, I would recommend a good "Modern (20th century) Physics" class if you haven't had one already. If you have had such a class, then I would recommend an intro to quantum mechanics course.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind! I think I might also check out the advanced electricity and magnetism class that my school offers. I might be able to just ask the professor if i could sit in on a few lectures every now and then - I've done that in the past without any problems.

mccoy1 said:
I guess you should have learned DE and Fourier Analysis during your BS degree. Personnally I won't advise you to waste your money if you want to learn just DE and Fourier Analysis. Why not just buy Mathematical Methods for Scientists and Engineers? It may help.


Yeah, I kind of thought it was a little odd that I never had to take a DE class. I'll check out that book. Who is/are the author(s)?
 
I have mathematical methods for scientists and Engineers( assumed knowledge here and there though) by McQuarie, Which I like. My brother has Mathematical methods in Physical Sciences by Mary Boa...it's quite good as well. You may find it useful to go to your school library/or nearby lib and borrow one or both of those books and go through them and decide if they offer the mathematical tecniques rigor you need.
I also have Chemistry maths book by Erich Steiner on the shelf here (..no assumed knowledge and quite good for undergraduates).It covers DEs, Fourier Analysis,Orthoganal matrices, symmetry(Group theory) etc. You may check it out as well.
Cheers.
 

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