Math Physics Tricky Integrals go Over my Head

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The discussion revolves around a mathematical physics problem involving integrals, specifically the integral ∫ u²(1 - u²)^(3/2) du, which arises in the context of a ladder and the area under it. Participants are exploring various methods of integration and the challenges associated with them.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the potential use of trigonometric substitution and integration by parts, with some expressing uncertainty about their effectiveness. There is also a question regarding the interpretation of the integral's notation.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants offering different approaches and questioning the original poster's understanding of the integral. Some guidance has been provided regarding trigonometric identities and substitution methods, but no consensus on a solution has been reached.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted confusion regarding the notation of the integral and the effectiveness of various integration techniques. Participants are also referencing external resources for trigonometric identities, indicating a reliance on additional materials for clarification.

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so i have this question about a ladder and the area under it and when it all comes down to it I get the integral, ∫ u2 ( 1 – u2 ) 3/2 du, from u = 0 to u = 1.


I am not sure whether to use trig substitution. I keep ending up in the same boat when I do. . . And the same thing when I do integration by parts. I'm not too quick with integration obviously. any help?
 
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is u2 u*2?

I'm almost going to have to guess it's u*(1-u)^(-3/2) that's giving you trouble(or 2*u or whatever)

in which case I think integration by parts will do it

What's the actual problem though?
 
I assume you mean \int_0^1 u^2(1-u^2)^{3/2} du.
Let u=\sin\theta and brush up on your trig.
Use the formulae for sin and cos of theta/2.
 
oh ok, that makes more sense with what he typed >_>

You'll need those trig identities, but you can find huge tables of such identities in moments courtesy of the internet
 
I tried substituting u = sin(theta) and all I got was sin^2(theta) cos^4(theta) dtheta... and that just doesn't mean anything to me...
 
\int \sin^2 \theta {} \cos^4 \theta {} {} d\theta = \frac{1}{4}\int \sin^2 2\theta \ \frac{1+\cos 2\theta}{2} {} d\theta

Can you carry on from here ?
 

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