Mathemathical Methods to Solve a Physics Problem

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The problem involves finding the electric potential V(x,y) inside an infinite hollow conducting cylinder that is divided into four segments with different boundary potentials. The segments in the first and third quadrants are held at potentials +V₀ and -V₀, while the second and fourth quadrants are at zero potential. The context is rooted in electrostatics and involves the application of conformal mapping techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the problem using conformal mapping and Laplace's equation, expressing potential in terms of polar coordinates. Some participants question the correctness of this approach, suggesting that the potential may not be constant along the x=0 and y=0 planes. Others propose using Bessel functions and superposition principles to address the boundary conditions.

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Participants are actively discussing various methods to approach the problem, with some suggesting alternative techniques while others express concerns about the assumptions made in the original solution. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method, but several productive lines of inquiry are being explored.

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There are hints provided regarding the use of simpler problems and specific conformal transformations to aid in finding the solution. The discussion highlights the importance of boundary conditions in determining the potential within the cylinder.

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Homework Statement


An infinite hollow conducting cylinder of unit radius is cut into four equal parts by planes x=0, y=0. The segmments in the first and third quadrant are maintained at potentials +V_{0} and -V_{0} respectively, and the segments in the second and fourth quadrant are maintained at zero potential. Find V(x,y) inside the cylinder.


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This type of problem we have done with using conformal map transformations.
In the z-plane with z=x+iy, in polar coordinates we have:

r=\sqrt{x^2+y^2}
<br /> \theta=\arctan{y/x}<br />

The Attempt at a Solution


In order to solve I tried conformal map transformation:
w=u+iv with w=\ln{z}=\ln{x+iy}=\ln{r}+i\theta
In doing so then,
u=\ln{r} and v=\theta
Using laplace equation
\frac{\partial^{2}V(x,y)}{\partial (x^2)} + \frac{\partial^{2}V(x,y)}{\partial (y^2)} =0

Similiarly Laplace equation holds true even in the w-plane. So that,
\frac{\partial^{2}V(x,y)}{\partial (u^2)} + \frac{\partial^{2}V(x,y)}{\partial (v^2)} =0

Since v=\theta is a constant then for
0\leq\theta\leq\frac{\pi}{2}

V(x,y)=\frac{V_{0}}{\frac{\pi}{2}}*v=\frac{2V_{0}}{\pi}*v

So that converting back in the z-plane we get:

V(x,y)=\frac{2V_{0}}{\pi}*\theta=\frac{2V_{0}}{\pi}*\arctan{y/x}



\frac{-\pi}{2}\leq\theta\leq\frac{-3\pi}{2}

V(x,y)=\frac{-V_{0}}{\frac{-\pi}{2}}*v=\frac{-2V_{0}}{-\pi}*v

V(x,y)=\frac{-2V_{0}}{-\pi}*\theta=\frac{2V_{0}}{\pi}*\arctan{y/x}
 
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Can someone please comment or suggest me if this is a correct solution?
 
I don't have time to look at the problem in depth, but I would think that you could write the potential in terms of Bessel functions and solve for the constants using the boundary conditions. I don't know if that's right, but just a suggestion.
 
cazlab,
thanks for you suggestion but I think I HAVE TO solve it with conformal map transformations.

Can someone else please suggest a solution or a comment on this exisiting solution?
 
Can someone please suggest how to solve this problem. The above solution is not correct because apparently it assumes that the potential along the x=0 and y=0 planes is constant but it is not. It is only constant at the boundries around the circle as described above.

Here is the hint that we were given:
Find the solution of the following simpler problems: the cylinder is cut into
two equal parts by the plane y = 0, with the upper half maintained at potential +V0/2
and the lower half maintained at potential −V0/2. Use the superposition
principle to solve the original problem.

Other hint*: In order to solve the problem of Hint 1, use the following conformal transformation

w=\frac{i(1-z)}{1+z} where z=x+iy


that maps the interior of the cylinder’s crossection onto the upper half of the w-plane.

Doing this transformation i found that

w=u+iv=\frac{y^2+y}{(x+1)^2+y^2}+i\frac{x^2-y^2+1}{(x+1)^2+y^2}


what we know is that Laplace's equation still holds for both z-plane and w-plane
 
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\frac{\partial^{2}V(x,y)}{\partial (x^2)} + \frac{\partial^{2}V(x,y)}{\partial (y^2)} =0
\frac{\partial^{2}V(u,v)}{\partial (u^2)} + \frac{\partial^{2}V(u,v)}{\partial (v^2)} =0
 

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