Mathematics for Physics in Zurich 16/17

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Aki is preparing to study physics at ETH Zurich in the winter semester of 2016/2017 and seeks guidance on the necessary mathematics to comprehend the subject effectively. Key recommendations include studying Analysis, Linear Algebra, and Mathematical Methods for Physics, with the "Courant Hilbert" text suggested for the latter. Aki expresses a desire to learn independently before starting university, acknowledging past struggles with mathematics and the challenges faced in the physics community. The discussion highlights the importance of foundational math skills for success in physics.

PREREQUISITES
  • Analysis
  • Linear Algebra
  • Mathematical Methods for Physics
  • Basic Probability Theory
NEXT STEPS
  • Research textbooks on Analysis, focusing on introductory materials.
  • Explore resources for Linear Algebra, including online courses and lecture notes.
  • Study "Courant Hilbert" for Mathematical Methods for Physics, emphasizing key chapters.
  • Investigate practical applications of probability theory in physics contexts.
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Students preparing for physics studies, particularly those transitioning from non-technical backgrounds, as well as individuals interested in the mathematical foundations necessary for understanding physics concepts.

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Hello Board!By eluding most math class' and homework as a youngster
I have deprived myself effectively of a tool on which I am dependent nowadays.
My love for mathematics if ever existent was ephemeral, unpredictable in its manifestation.
I would either almost fail the class or would have finished the entire math book before we even had reached 3/4 of the school year.

Today, seven years later at the age of 25 I have set my mind to study physics in the upcoming winter semester 16/17 in Zurich
and I need to prepare, no relearn and refurbish my understanding of the required mathematics.

Having been an ignorant for such a long time I would like to ask you people,
who have already cultivated a joy and deep understanding of the subjects, to help me manoeuvre through this.
This will be hopefully a guide for many years to come.

What math and in which order should I learn the material to truly comprehend physics?All I can give you in return is my sincerest effort and deep felt gratitude.
Cheers,
Aki
PS: Yes, I might have an awkward English it is my second language with German being my first but I do understand it quite well so please don't hesitate.
 
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Aki's Notes said:
Hello Board!By eluding most math class' and homework as a youngster
I have deprived myself effectively of a tool on which I am dependent nowadays.
My love for mathematics if ever existent was ephemeral, unpredictable in its manifestation.
I would either almost fail the class or would have finished the entire math book before we even had reached 3/4 of the school year.

Today, seven years later at the age of 25 I have set my mind to study physics in the upcoming winter semester 16/17 in Zurich
and I need to prepare, no relearn and refurbish my understanding of the required mathematics.

Having been an ignorant for such a long time I would like to ask you people,
who have already cultivated a joy and deep understanding of the subjects, to help me manoeuvre through this.
This will be hopefully a guide for many years to come.

What math and in which order should I learn the material to truly comprehend physics?All I can give you in return is my sincerest effort and deep felt gratitude.
Cheers,
Aki
PS: Yes, I might have an awkward English it is my second language with German being my first but I do understand it quite well so please don't hesitate.
I am also studying in Zurich, 3rd year of physics. I didn't get if you want to study in your spare time or at a university. In your spare time, you should do:

-Analysis
-Linear Algebra
-Mathematical methods for physicsThis is the absolute minimum to learn physics afterwards (assuming you can handle probability intuitively).
Just look up books on these subjects, I'm afraid I can't help you on which though because I didn't use books in my undergraduate courses. Mathematical methods should have one called "Courant Hilbert" which is good (but very long and you won't need everything).

Now for a piece of life advice: I also started studying physics late. I was an excellent economics student, now I'm an average physics student. If I could go back, I would. The world of physics has been full of anti-social people, uninterested in whether you're understanding the subject, overly difficult exams made to fail a percentage of the class and arrogance for me. In my opinion, nothing good can flourish in such an environment. I also thought I had a passion, I also thought mathematics was "cool" and required nowadays. I was wrong.
 
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realnoob said:
I am also studying in Zurich, 3rd year of physics. I didn't get if you want to study in your spare time or at a university. In your spare time, you should do:

-Analysis
-Linear Algebra
-Mathematical methods for physicsThis is the absolute minimum to learn physics afterwards (assuming you can handle probability intuitively).
Just look up books on these subjects, I'm afraid I can't help you on which though because I didn't use books in my undergraduate courses. Mathematical methods should have one called "Courant Hilbert" which is good (but very long and you won't need everything).

Now for a piece of life advice: I also started studying physics late. I was an excellent economics student, now I'm an average physics student. If I could go back, I would. The world of physics has been full of anti-social people, uninterested in whether you're understanding the subject, overly difficult exams made to fail a percentage of the class and arrogance for me. In my opinion, nothing good can flourish in such an environment. I also thought I had a passion, I also thought mathematics was "cool" and required nowadays. I was wrong.

Thank you for your answer realnoob!
I have heard similar stories from friends while I was in Vienna,
it seems that the subject of Physics tends to accumulate people with specific traits.
To clarify any misunderstandings, I want to study in Zurich at the ETH
but would prepare myself in private, secluded from any course.Your last sentence intrigues me the most:
I also thought I had a passion, I also thought mathematics was "cool" and required nowadays.
I was wrong.

Would you be willing to elaborate on that any further?
My main motivation for learning physics is to become an entrepreneur in a more technical field
and be able to understand what the specifics of the given undertakings are.
I have a feeling that this is going to be quite educational, if I may say so.
 
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