Mathematics useful for Physics classes

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The discussion focuses on identifying specific mathematics topics that would be beneficial for a physics major to study concurrently or prior to various physics courses. Participants explore the connections between mathematics and physics, particularly in relation to advanced topics such as quantum mechanics and particle physics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that all mathematics is relevant to physics but seeks specific topics that align with upcoming physics classes, including computational physics and quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant lists foundational mathematics topics for undergraduates, including multivariable calculus, differential equations, and linear algebra, followed by advanced topics like complex analysis and tensor analysis.
  • A different participant notes that vector analysis is crucial for understanding derivations in electricity and magnetism, while integrals and linear algebra are important for quantum mechanics.
  • One participant recommends Mary Boas's "Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences" as a valuable resource for undergraduate physics and engineering students, highlighting its relevance to the necessary mathematics for physics majors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of various mathematical topics for understanding physics, but there is no consensus on a definitive order or selection of topics that would be most beneficial.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a range of opinions on the relevance of different mathematical fields to specific physics topics, with some suggestions being more foundational while others are advanced. The connections drawn are dependent on individual course sequences and personal academic goals.

Who May Find This Useful

Physics majors, students planning to take advanced physics courses, and those interested in the mathematical foundations of physics may find this discussion beneficial.

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I'm not going to ask what mathematics are relevant to physics, I know the answer is all mathematics. I was hoping you guys could help me figure out which specific mathematics topics would be best to take concurrently or prior to certain physics topics, so that the order of my classes is most beneficial to my understanding (I'm a physics major, and I'm going to go a bit beyond a minor in math). I am going to be taking some 300-level differential equations and partial differential equations as well as vector analysis. I could go deeper into these topics or to more statistical/analysis topics, or more pure mathematics, or really anything you could think of including graduate level. I'm looking for the greatest connection to my upcoming physics classes however, which are (in approx. order):

-Computational Physics
-Intro to Condensed Matter Physics
-Thermodynamics
-Optics
-Mechanics
-Electricity and Magnetism 1&2
-Intro to Quantum Mechanics 1&2
-Elementary Particles

Any suggestions? Also, take into consideration that I'm considering a more theoretical field likely involving heavy QM and perhaps particle/high-energy physics. I've already gotten the suggestion that a more advanced linear algebra that describes it more fundamentally would greatly benefit QM, and advanced algebra would benefit QFT specifically. This is such a complicated question though that I want to get as much input as possible.
 
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For undergrad:
- multivariable calculus,
- differential equations
- linear algebra

then
- complex analysis
- boundary value problems

later
- tensor analysis
- group theory
- differential forms
 
E&M - vector analysis is useful to understand all the derivations
Quantum - all kinds of integrals, linear algebra/matrices, spherical harmonics, Dirac notation
Thermo - so far, a lot of partial derivatives
 
Check out the various threads that we have had on Mary Boas's text "Mathematical Methods in the Physical Sciences". For any undergraduate physics and engineering student, this should be a book to refer to, and at the basic level, the math that you will need to survive. For a physics majors, the chapter on Calculus of Variation alone is worth the price of the book!

Zz.
 
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