Max Area Problem: Find Rectangle w/ Largest Area (400 yrs Fencing)

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The problem involves finding the dimensions of a rectangle that maximize the enclosed area given a fixed perimeter of 400 yards of fencing. The subject area relates to geometry and optimization, specifically focusing on the relationship between area and dimensions of a rectangle.

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  • Participants discuss expressing the area as a function of width and the implications of the perimeter on the length. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between length and width, with some participants suggesting the use of the perimeter formula. Others question the necessity of using derivatives for optimization.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored regarding the relationship between the rectangle's dimensions and the area. Some participants have offered hints and alternative perspectives, while others express uncertainty about how to proceed without using derivatives.

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There is a constraint mentioned that derivatives cannot be used, which influences the approaches being considered. Additionally, there are playful comments regarding the concept of "years" in the context of the problem, which adds a light-hearted element to the discussion.

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1. David has 400 yrs of fencing and wishes to enclose a rectangular area. a) express the area A of the rectangle as a function of the width w of the rectangle. b) For what value of w is the area largest. c) What is the maximum area?



2. A=xy... My teacher does not want us to use derivatives.



3. I can't even being to attempt it.
 
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You got A=Lw and you want the area in terms of w, so the next step is to figure out what L is (in terms of w) and sub it into A=Lw.

Hint: use the perimeter formula
 
So does that mean L=400-w?
 
Cstreet09 said:
So does that mean L=400-w?

No. Draw a picture and label all 4 sides L or w. What is it that equals 400?
 
It may help to think of it this way:

What is greater?

(x-n)(x+n)
or
x2

To help, what is another way of writing the first one?


What's to say you can't use optimisation (derivatives) to check your answer?
 
There would be no reason to use derivatives. The function to be optimized is a quadratic and completing the square works nicely.
 
Cstreet09 said:
David has 400 yrs of fencing
That's going to take him a very long time!:wink:
 
:wink: He probably means light-years! :biggrin:
 
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Nah, I would have thought dark years
 
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ah … dark time

that mysterious phenomenon which is generally interspersed among ordinary time, but occasionally is more concentrated, causing effective time to pass more slowly and more heavily. :wink:
 

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