Max Ball Height: No Mass Needed

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The problem involves determining the maximum height reached by a ball thrown directly upward with an initial velocity of 10.0 m/s, while neglecting friction. The discussion centers on the role of mass in the calculations related to gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy, questioning why mass is not needed in the calculations. There is also a comparison made to a thought experiment involving a feather and a cannonball to illustrate the effects of gravity on different masses.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants clarifying the concept that gravity accelerates all masses equally. Some guidance has been provided regarding the cancellation of mass in the equations, leading to a better understanding of the problem.

Contextual Notes

The problem explicitly states to neglect friction, which influences the assumptions made in the discussion about forces acting on the ball.

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Homework Statement


you throw a ball directly upward, giving it an initial velocity of 10.0 m/s. neglecting friction, what would be the maximum height of the ball? (explain why you do not need to know the mass of the ball)



Homework Equations


now the problem itself i understand.

we need Eg=mgh, Ek=1/2mv^2



The Attempt at a Solution


Ek=Eg
1/2mv^2 = mgh
1/2v^2 = gh
1/2(10.0)^2 = 9.81h
50/9.81 = h
h = 5.1m

i understand that we do not have mass and so it must cancel out, but i am confused as to why we do not need to know the mass?
 
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What falls faster a feather or a cannon ball? (this problem assumes 0 resistance)
 
neglecting air friction, neither..
meaning mass doesn't matter
 
So you're saying that gravity accelerates all masses in an equal manner. This is correct. What is the one force acting upon the ball after you release it?
 
only gravity (in this instance because it says to neglect friction)
 
Yes, do you understand now why you don't need to know the mass of the ball?
 
i understand.
thank you
 

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