Conservation of Energy with heat

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The problem involves a 45 kg steel ball projected vertically with an initial speed of 280 m/s, where heat energy is produced due to air friction. The objective is to determine the maximum height reached by the ball while considering the conservation of energy principles.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to apply the conservation of energy principle by equating initial kinetic energy with the sum of potential energy at maximum height and the heat energy lost. Questions arise regarding whether to add or subtract the heat energy in the energy balance equation.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of conservation of energy, with some suggesting that the heat energy should be added to the energy after the initial kinetic energy is accounted for. There is a focus on clarifying the reasoning behind this approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are discussing the effects of air friction and the resulting heat energy on the total energy balance, indicating a need for clarity on how these factors interact within the conservation of energy framework.

jakeginobi

Homework Statement


A 45 kg steel ball is projected vertically with an initial speed of 280 m s . While the ball is rising, 8.5E5 J of heat energy are produced due to air friction. What is the maximum height
reached by the ball?

Homework Equations


Ek = 1/2mv^2 Ep = mgh

The Attempt at a Solution


I started with Ekbefore=Epafter+Ekafter-Eheat
so It'll be 1/2(45kg)(280m/s) = (45kg)(9.8m/s^2)h + 1/2(45kg)(0) - 8.5E5 J
Solving for H, I got 5927.44 m, the answer is 2100m (rounded), am I suppose to add the heat energy or subtract it from the energy after?
 
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What do you get if you add it? This should give you your answer.
 
Chestermiller said:
What do you get if you add it? This should give you your answer.
So I'm suppose to add the heat energy to the energy after?
 
jakeginobi said:
So I'm suppose to add the heat energy to the energy after?
Yes. Why do you think that this is so?
 
Chestermiller said:
Yes. Why do you think that this is so?
It's because of conservation of energy? The energy before = the energy after
 
jakeginobi said:
It's because of conservation of energy? The energy before = the energy after
Yes.
 

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