Max Principle: Showing $|u_1-u_2|\leq \max_{\partial{\Omega}}|g_1-g_2|$

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating the inequality $$|u_1(x)-u_2(x)| \leq \max_{x \in \partial{\Omega}}|g_1(x)-g_2(x)|$$ using the maximum principle in the context of solutions to partial differential equations. The focus is on the mathematical reasoning and steps involved in proving this inequality, with participants exploring various cases and approaches.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the problem setup involving two solutions $u_1$ and $u_2$ to the equations defined on a bounded space $\Omega$ and their boundary conditions.
  • Participants discuss the implications of subtracting the two equations, leading to the conclusion that the difference $u_1 - u_2$ satisfies certain properties derived from the maximum principle.
  • Some participants propose distinguishing cases based on whether $u_1(y) - u_2(y)$ is non-negative or negative, leading to different approaches to bounding the absolute difference.
  • In the case where $u_1(y) - u_2(y) \ge 0$, it is suggested that the inequality holds by directly comparing to the boundary values.
  • In the case where $u_1(y) - u_2(y) < 0$, participants explore how to express the absolute difference in terms of the maximum of the boundary values.
  • There is a discussion on the relationship between $\max_{x \in \partial{\Omega}} (-(g_1(x)-g_2(x)))$ and $\max_{x \in \partial{\Omega}} |g_1(x)-g_2(x)|$ as a necessary step to complete the proof.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the validity of the mathematical steps taken so far, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the final steps needed to establish the desired inequality. Multiple approaches and cases are being explored without a consensus on the final argument.

Contextual Notes

The discussion involves assumptions about the properties of the solutions and the bounded domain, which are not fully elaborated. The dependence on the maximum principle and the specific boundary conditions is also a critical aspect that remains implicit.

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Let $\Omega$ a bounded space. Let $u_1$ the solution of the problem $$-\Delta u_1(x)=f(x), x \in \Omega \\ u_1(x)=g_1(x), x \in \partial{\Omega}$$ and $u_2$ is the solution of the problem $$-\Delta u_2(x)=f(x), x \in \Omega \\ u_2(x)=g_2(x), x \in \partial{\Omega}$$ Using the maximum principle I have to show that $$|u_1(x)-u_2(x)| \leq \max_{x \in \partial{\Omega}}|g_1(x)-g_2(x)|, x \in \Omega$$

I have done the following:

Subtracting the two problems we get the following:

$$\Delta (u_1(x)-u_2(x))=0, x \in \Omega \\ u_1(x)-u_2(x)=g_1(x)-g_2(x), x \in \partial{\Omega} $$ and $$\Delta(-(u_1(x)-u_2(x)))=0, x\in \Omega \\ -(u_1(x)-u_2(x))=-(g_1(x)-g_2(x)), x \in \partial{\Omega}$$ Since $\Delta (u_1-u_2) \geq 0$, from the maximum for $u_1-u_2$ we have that $$\max_{\Omega}(u_1-u_2)=\max_{\partial{\Omega}}(u_1-u_2)=\max_{\partial{\Omega}}(g_1-g_2)$$ Since $\Delta (-(u_1-u_2)) \geq 0$, from the maximum for $-(u_1-u_2)$ we have that $$\max_{\Omega}(-(u_1-u_2))=\max_{\partial{\Omega}}(-(u_1-u_2))=\max_{\partial{\Omega}}(-(g_1-g_2))$$ Since $$\max (-(u_1-u_2))=\min (u_1-u_2)$$ we have that $$\min_{\Omega}(u_1-u_2) \leq u_1-u_2 \leq \max_{\Omega}(u_1-u_2) \\ \Rightarrow \max_{\partial{\Omega}}(-(g_1-g_2)) \leq u_1-u_2 \leq \max_{\partial{\Omega}}(g_1-g_2)$$

Is this correct so far?? How could we continue to show that $$|u_1(x)-u_2(x)| \leq \max_{x \in \partial{\Omega}}|g_1(x)-g_2(x)|, x \in \Omega$$ ?? (Wondering)
 
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mathmari said:
Is this correct so far?? How could we continue to show that $$|u_1(x)-u_2(x)| \leq \max_{x \in \partial{\Omega}}|g_1(x)-g_2(x)|, x \in \Omega$$ ?? (Wondering)

Hi! (Blush)

Looks good to me. (Nod)

Suppose we distinguish cases... (Thinking)

Suppose that at some point $y \in \Omega$ we have that $u_1(y) - u_2(y) \ge 0$.
Then:
$$|u_1(y) - u_2(y)| = u_1(y) - u_2(y) \le \max_{x \in \partial \Omega} (g_1(x)-g_2(x)) \le \max_{x \in \partial \Omega} |g_1(x)-g_2(x)|$$

Now suppose that $u_1(y) - u_2(y) < 0$... (Thinking)
 
I like Serena said:
Looks good to me. (Nod)
(Happy)

I like Serena said:
Suppose we distinguish cases... (Thinking)

Suppose that at some point $y \in \Omega$ we have that $u_1(y) - u_2(y) \ge 0$.
Then:
$$|u_1(y) - u_2(y)| = u_1(y) - u_2(y) \le \max_{x \in \partial \Omega} (g_1(x)-g_2(x)) \le \max_{x \in \partial \Omega} |g_1(x)-g_2(x)|$$

Now suppose that $u_1(y) - u_2(y) < 0$... (Thinking)

When we have that $u_1(y)-u_2(y)<0$, then:

$$|u_1(y)-u_2(y)|=-(u_1(y)-u_2(y)) \leq \max_{x \in \Omega} (-(u_1(x)-u_2(x)))=\max_{x \in \partial{\Omega}} (-(g_1(x)-g_2(x)))$$

Is this correct so far?? (Wondering)
 
mathmari said:
When we have that $u_1(y)-u_2(y)<0$, then:

$$|u_1(y)-u_2(y)|=-(u_1(y)-u_2(y)) \leq \max_{x \in \Omega} (-(u_1(x)-u_2(x)))=\max_{x \in \partial{\Omega}} (-(g_1(x)-g_2(x)))$$

Is this correct so far?? (Wondering)

Yup.
Now we only need that $\max\limits_{x \in \partial{\Omega}} (-(g_1(x)-g_2(x))) \le \max\limits_{x \in \partial{\Omega}} |g_1(x)-g_2(x)|$... (Thinking)
 

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