Maximal Ideal .... Bland - AA - Example 2, Section 3.2.12 .... ....

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The discussion centers on the proof of Example 2 in Section 3.2.12 of "The Basics of Abstract Algebra" by Paul E. Bland, specifically regarding the characterization of maximal ideals in the context of ideals of the integers, $\mathbb{Z}$. Participants are examining the conditions under which an ideal $I$ is considered maximal, particularly in relation to the ideal $5\mathbb{Z}$.

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  • Peter questions the completeness of Bland's proof, suggesting that it should also demonstrate that if $5\mathbb{Z} \subseteq I \subset \mathbb{Z}$, then $I$ must equal $5\mathbb{Z}$.
  • Another participant clarifies that Bland's claim is that $5\mathbb{Z}$ is a maximal ideal, and that the two statements regarding $I$ are equivalent to the definition provided in the book.
  • A further contribution states that to show an ideal $M$ is maximal, it suffices to demonstrate that for any ideal $I$, either $M \subset I \subseteq \mathbb{Z}$ implies $I = \mathbb{Z}$, or $M \subseteq I \subset \mathbb{Z}$ implies $I = M$.
  • It is noted that a similar argument applies to show that $p\mathbb{Z}$ is a maximal ideal for any prime $p$.

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Participants express differing views on the sufficiency of Bland's proof regarding maximal ideals. While some agree with the reasoning provided, others, like Peter, seek further clarification on the completeness of the argument.

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There is an emphasis on the definitions and conditions surrounding maximal ideals, with specific references to the structure of ideals within the integers. The discussion highlights the nuances in proving maximality and the implications of proper inclusions.

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I am reading The Basics of Abstract Algebra by Paul E. Bland ...

I am focused on Section 3.2 Subrings, Ideals and Factor Rings ... ...

I need help with the proof of Example 2, Section 3.2.12, pages 147 to 148 ... ... Example 2, Section 3.2.12 reads as follows:
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In the above example Bland shows that if $$I$$ is an ideal of $$\mathbb{Z}$$ such that $$5 \mathbb{Z} \subset I \subseteq \mathbb{Z}$$ then $$I = \mathbb{Z}$$ ... Bland then claims that $$I$$ is a maximal ideal of $$\mathbb{Z}$$ ...... BUT ...... doesn't Bland also have to show that if $$I$$ is an ideal of $$\mathbb{Z}$$ such that $$5 \mathbb{Z} \subseteq I \subset \mathbb{Z}$$ then $$I = 5 \mathbb{Z}$$ ... ?Can someone explain why Bland's proof is complete as it stands ...

Peter============================================================================***NOTE***

It may help readers to have access to Bland's definition of a maximal ideal ... so I am providing the same as follows:https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/8264
https://www.physicsforums.com/attachments/8265Sorry about the legibility ... but Bland shades his definitions ...Peter
 
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Hi Peter,

Actually, Bland claims that $5\mathbb{Z}$ (not $I$ as you wrote) is a maximal ideal of $\mathbb{Z}$.

The two statements are equivalent to ‘‘if $5\mathbb{Z}\subseteq I \subseteq\mathbb{Z}$, then $I=5\mathbb{Z}$ or $I=\mathbb{Z}$’’ (this is the definition in the book).

To see this, let us assume that $5\mathbb{Z}\subseteq I\subset\mathbb{Z}$. If the first inclusion is proper, then, by what has been proved in the example, we must have $I=\mathbb{Z}$, and this contradicts the assumption that the second inclusion is proper.
 
In general, to show that an ideal $M$ of a ring $R$ (i.e. commutative ring with multiplicative identity) is maximal, you can show that for any ideal $I$, either$$M\subset I\subseteq\mathbb Z\ \implies\ I=\mathbb Z$$or$$M\subseteq I\subset\mathbb Z\ \implies\ I=M.$$You don’t have to do both.
 
A similar argument shows that $p \mathbb{Z}$ is a maximal ideal of $\mathbb{Z}$ for each prime $p$.
 

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