Maximizing Grad School Opportunities for Astrophysics After Military Service

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The discussion centers on the potential impact of military service on graduate school opportunities in astrophysics, particularly for a student planning to serve in the Navy after completing a physics degree. Participants explore various aspects of academic preparation, including GPA, GRE requirements, and the value of a Master's degree, as well as considerations for double majoring in engineering or computer science.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that completing military service after obtaining a BS will not hinder chances for graduate school admission.
  • Recommendations include maintaining a GPA above 3.5, taking the GRE during the senior year, and securing letters of recommendation while relationships with professors are fresh.
  • One participant notes that the GRE is valid for five years, implying that retaking it may be necessary if the Navy service lasts exactly five years.
  • Concerns are raised about the adequacy of only four astrophysics/astronomy classes in the undergraduate program and whether this might be viewed negatively by graduate admissions committees.
  • There is a discussion about the potential benefits of pursuing a Master's degree for knowledge retention, with varying opinions on its value depending on the institution's degree offerings.
  • Some participants argue that double majoring may not be beneficial due to the risk of a lower GPA and reduced time for research, while others suggest that coursework from military academies is often viewed favorably by graduate schools.
  • A participant offers to provide mentorship and research opportunities for the original poster, indicating a willingness to support their academic journey.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the impact of military service on graduate school prospects, the value of a Master's degree, and the merits of double majoring. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best path forward for the original poster.

Contextual Notes

There are uncertainties regarding the specific requirements and expectations of graduate programs in astrophysics, as well as the potential implications of varying academic paths and institutional reputations.

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Hello all, I am going to college this fall and I will be studying physics with a concentration on astrophysics, I am a pretty good student and afterwards I will serve 5 years in the Navy as an officer. My question is, will the 5 years I spend in the Navy hinder my chances of getting into top grad programs for astrophysics? I might also get a Masters right after graduation or during my time in the Navy.
 
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Meeting your service requirement after your BS will not hinder your grad school chances. A few recommendations:
1. Keep your grades up, especially your math and physics grades. Depending on your undergrad school, you should probably have a GPA well above 3.5.
2. Take the GRE (general and Physics) your senior year. You'll forget too much if you wait until you are about to apply for grad school.
3. Ask your research supervisor and a couple teachers to write letters of recommendation while your work for them is still fresh in their minds. 4-5 years from now, they can pull them up and send them.
 
The GRE is valid for five years. Unless you are in the Navy for exactly five years, you will need to retake it. And it will not be fresh.
 
Dr. Courtney said:
Meeting your service requirement after your BS will not hinder your grad school chances. A few recommendations:
1. Keep your grades up, especially your math and physics grades. Depending on your undergrad school, you should probably have a GPA well above 3.5.
2. Take the GRE (general and Physics) your senior year. You'll forget too much if you wait until you are about to apply for grad school.
3. Ask your research supervisor and a couple teachers to write letters of recommendation while your work for them is still fresh in their minds. 4-5 years from now, they can pull them up and send them.
Thank you Dr. As Vanadium said, it might not be exactly 5 years. Do you think that a Masters will help me with my retainment of knowledge? Both the masters and bachelors of science won’t be in astrophysics. My major will have only 4 astrophysics/astronomy classes, is this looked down upon by grad school admissions? Also (sorry for asking so many questions) what do you think about a double major? In my school everyone takes some engineering classes, even the humanities majors, so I was wondering if it was a good idea to double major with aerospace/mechanical engineering or comp sci.
 
Esaw4ever said:
Thank you Dr. As Vanadium said, it might not be exactly 5 years. Do you think that a Masters will help me with my retainment of knowledge? Both the masters and bachelors of science won’t be in astrophysics. My major will have only 4 astrophysics/astronomy classes, is this looked down upon by grad school admissions? Also (sorry for asking so many questions) what do you think about a double major? In my school everyone takes some engineering classes, even the humanities majors, so I was wondering if it was a good idea to double major with aerospace/mechanical engineering or comp sci.

For grad school in physics, focus on your math and physics courses and GPA. Double majors are rarely worth the hit in terms of lower GPA and also reduced time for research.

Masters degrees vary with respect to retaining core physics knowledge. If in the process you end up taking graduate level classical mechanics, quantum mechanics, electrodynamics, and statistical mechanics at a PhD granting institution, then you should be duly refreshed in a lot of physics. The same courses from a MS only granting school (no PhDs) would be much less valuable, since many of these schools gift lots of grades with little learning.

Are you actually at the Naval Academy? (I taught at USAFA, and my wife taught at West Point.) Humanities majors in engineering courses sound like a military academy? Coursework at the military academies is usually viewed more highly by grad schools than the same coursework at many ROTC schools. If you are going to Navy, contact me by PM and I'll share my email address. I mentored more published undergraduate research at USAFA in my four years there than any other faculty member. I'm a consultant now, but I still mentor a number of student projects for students who cannot find research opportunities at their home institutions. If the research doors open too slowly for you at Navy, we might find something you can collaborate on from a distance or perhaps even visit our lab in Louisiana if time permits.
 
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