Maximum separation between blocks on spring

In summary: So, the problem doesn't specify the initial conditions, and there is no way to determine the maximum separation from the given information. There are other issues with the solution, but the main point is that it is not valid.In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving two blocks connected by a spring on a frictionless table. The goal is to determine the maximum and minimum separation between the blocks in terms of their maximum speed, vmax. The attempted solution uses conservation of energy and assumes that the maximum separation depends on vmax. However, there are issues with the solution and it is not valid without more information.
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Homework Statement


Two blocks, each of mass m, are connected on a frictionless horizontal table by a spring of force constant k and equilibrium length L.

Find the maximum and minimum separation between the two blocks in terms of their maximum speed, vmax, relative to the table. (The two blocks always move in opposite directions as they oscillate back and forth about a fixed position.)

Homework Equations


Conservation of energy

The Attempt at a Solution


Ki + Ui = Kf + Uf
Ki = Uf
(1/2)mvmax2 = (1/2)kx2
Solve for x and the (1/2) cancel.
So:
x = sqrt(mvmax/k)
This gives the amount the string has stretched, so the distance between the blocks would be x + L which would result in:
Max Seperation = sqrt(mvmax/k) + L.
When I type in the solution I get a message that his is incorrect because the maximum separation does not depend on vmax.
 
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Re-check the step (1/2)mvmax2 = (1/2)kx2, So: x = sqrt(mvmax/k)

For example with a dimension check.

And: what exactly is vmax if there are two blocks ? Is the centre of the spring fixed to the table ? Don't you have two half springs that way ?
 
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henry3369 said:
(1/2)mvmax2 = (1/2)kx2
In addition to BvU's comments, there are two blocks to store KE but only one spring to store PE.
 

1. What is the maximum separation between blocks on a spring?

The maximum separation between blocks on a spring, also known as the amplitude of oscillation, is the maximum distance the blocks will move away from their equilibrium position when the spring is stretched or compressed.

2. How is the maximum separation between blocks on a spring determined?

The maximum separation is determined by the initial displacement of the blocks, the stiffness of the spring, and the mass of the blocks. It can be calculated using the formula: A = x0 + (m1 + m2)g / k, where A is the maximum separation, x0 is the initial displacement, m1 and m2 are the masses of the blocks, g is the acceleration due to gravity, and k is the spring constant.

3. What factors affect the maximum separation between blocks on a spring?

The maximum separation is affected by the initial displacement, spring stiffness, and mass of the blocks. Other factors such as air resistance and friction can also have an impact on the maximum separation.

4. Can the maximum separation between blocks on a spring be changed?

Yes, the maximum separation can be changed by altering the initial displacement, adjusting the spring stiffness, or changing the mass of the blocks. However, the maximum separation will always be limited by the spring's physical properties and external factors such as air resistance.

5. What is the significance of the maximum separation between blocks on a spring?

The maximum separation between blocks on a spring is an important factor in understanding the behavior of a spring-block system. It can help determine the energy and velocity of the blocks, as well as the frequency and period of oscillation. It is also a key component in the study of simple harmonic motion and mechanical waves.

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