Maximum displacement in mass spring system

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The discussion revolves around a mass-spring system where a block is suspended by an ideal spring. The original poster attempts to determine the maximum displacement of the block when a constant force is applied, leading to a comparison between their calculated value and a reference from their textbook.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the applied force, the weight of the block, and the spring's extension. Questions arise regarding the conditions for equilibrium and the implications of maximum displacement, including the role of inertia.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants questioning the assumptions made about equilibrium and the nature of forces at maximum displacement. Some guidance is provided regarding the relationship between forces and motion, but no consensus has been reached on the correct interpretation of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not explicitly state that the block comes to equilibrium, leading to varied interpretations of the forces involved at maximum displacement.

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Homework Statement


A block is suspended by an ideal spring of the force constant K. If the block is pulled down by applying a constant force F and if maximum displacement of the block from its initial position of rest is X then, find the value of X.

Homework Equations


mg + F = XK + K(mg/K)

The Attempt at a Solution



Let mass of block = m
Before applying F, the block is at rest. Let extension of spring here be a. So,
aK = mg
Hence, a = (mg/K) ... {1}

Now, after the block comes in equilibrium under F,

F + mg = (X+a) K ..... {2}

Solving {1} & {2} gives:
X = F/KBut, my book says that X = 2F/K
 
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Fitz Watson said:
after the block comes in equilibrium under F,
It does not say that it comes to equilibrium. The force is maintained as a constant.
 
haruspex said:
It does not say that it comes to equilibrium. The force is maintained as a constant.
But when it has reached maximum extension, doesn't it mean that now the spring force is equal to weight + external force applied. And that's why the block can't go further down
 
Fitz Watson said:
But when it has reached maximum extension, doesn't it mean that now the spring force is equal to weight + external force applied.
Not necessarily. Think about KE.
 
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haruspex said:
Not necessarily. Think about KE.
Now that I rethink, will it be like after forces becoming equal, block will go further down due to inertia?
 
Fitz Watson said:
Now that I rethink, will it be like after forces becoming equal, block will go further down due to inertia?
Yes.
 

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