Maximum spring compression problem

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The problem involves a 7.0 kg box moving on a frictionless surface that compresses a spring with a force constant of 50 N/cm. The original poster seeks to determine the maximum compression of the spring based on the box's kinetic energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of kinetic energy and its conversion to spring potential energy. There are questions about the correct interpretation of the energy equations and units involved. Some participants suggest reconsidering the energy conservation principles at play.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering guidance on the correct interpretation of energy transformations. There is a recognition of the need to clarify units and the nature of the equations being used. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to explore the problem without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the units of energy and the correct application of the equations related to kinetic and potential energy. The original poster's initial calculations were noted as incorrect, prompting further exploration of the concepts involved.

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Homework Statement



A 7.0kg box moving at 6.0m/s on a horizontal, frictionless surface runs into a light spring of force constant 50N/cm .
What is the maximum compression of the spring?


Homework Equations


K=1/2mv^2


The Attempt at a Solution


K=1/2(7.0)(6)^2 = 126N

126N/(50N/cm) = 2.52cm

That is apparently incorrect.
 
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whdahl said:
K=1/2(7.0)(6)^2 = 126N
K=1/2(7.0)(6)^2 = 126 Joules not Newtons
 
2. Homework Equations
K=1/2mv^2

What type of equation is this? Moment, energy, work? This will refer to the equation used fr the spring. Your equation you use for the spring part is incorrect that is why your displacement will be inccorect...
 
It is a work problem
 
Once again, think it in terms of energy. What happens to the kinetic energy of the box if energy is conserved?
 
Okay so what amount of work(kinetic energy) can be done by the box? Use your equation and do exactly the same, just get your unit correct for work/energy.
What do you think happens to all this energy once the box comes to a momentarily stop? Energy cannot get created or destroyed it can only be tranfered from one form to another... So if there is no kinetic energy in the box, and the system is at a standstill, where is all the potential energy stored?
 
The kinetic energy from the box is then stored as spring potential energy P=1/2kx^2. I think I see my problem. I have the final equation:

126J=126Nm=1/2(50N/cm)x^2

25200Ncm=50(N/cm)x^2
x^2=504cm
x=22.45cm

Thank you guys, you helped a lot!
 
pleasure, great job by the way...
 

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