Maximum value of a Quadratic Equation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around proving that the quadratic expression 12x - 8 - 3x² can never exceed the value of 4. Participants explore various methods for demonstrating this, including the use of the discriminant and completing the square, while also seeking clarification on the requirements for the proof.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the appropriate method for proving the claim, specifically whether the discriminant is relevant for this type of proof.
  • Others explain that a quadratic function with a negative leading coefficient indicates a downward-facing parabola, which has a maximum point at its vertex.
  • A participant provides a method for finding the maximum value by completing the square, showing that the maximum value of the expression is 4.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to identify the vertical coordinate of the maximum turning point, suggesting multiple methods may be applicable.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the methods for proving the claim, with no consensus on the best approach or the relevance of the discriminant. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific requirements for the proof.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the context of the course may influence the proof requirements, which are not fully detailed in the discussion.

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Prove that 12x-8-3x^2 can never be greater than 4.

How do you prove? Do you find he discriminant? But isn't discriminant for roots only not equations?
 
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I don't know what kind of proof you teacher or professor requires for this so can you provide some context for the course?

Otherwise I would say in general that a quadratic function with a negative leading coefficient is a parabola that faces downward and has a maximum point at the vertex.

If the formula for a parabola is given in the form [math]y=ax^2+bx+c[/math] then the vertex is [math]x=-\frac{b}{2a}[/math]. Again this requires some context for the course.
 
thorpelizts said:
Prove that 12x-8-3x^2 can never be greater than 4.

How do you prove? Do you find he discriminant? But isn't discriminant for roots only not equations?

This is the standard non-calculus method for finding the maximum/minimum of a quadratic expression:

You first complete the square to get:

\[-3x^2+12x-8=-3(x-2)^2+12-8=-3(x-2)^2 +4\]

Now since the largest \(-3(x-2)^2\) can be is zero the largest the whole thing can be is \(+4\).

CB
 
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thorpelizts said:
Prove that 12x-8-3x^2 can never be greater than 4.

How do you prove? Do you find he discriminant? But isn't discriminant for roots only not equations?
It should be recognized as a negative parabola so your job is to find the vertical coordinate of the maximum turning point. Several methods have already been suggested.
 

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