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The discussion revolves around determining the maximum velocity of an object dropped from a 20 m cliff, assuming no air resistance and a gravitational acceleration of 10 m/s².

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between time, distance, and velocity, questioning the validity of their calculations and assumptions regarding the time of fall and the average speed during the descent.

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Some participants have provided insights into the calculations, with one suggesting the use of SUVAT equations to clarify the relationship between velocity and displacement. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct interpretation of the problem and the calculations involved.

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Participants note the absence of explicit time values in the problem statement, leading to confusion about the calculations. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the motion involved in free fall.

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Just finished an exam. One problem is bothering me and I want to be certain if it's right.

Homework Statement


What is the maximum velocity of an object dropped from a 20 m cliff?
Assume no air friction and gravity is 10 m/s/s.


Homework Equations


None given, but I assume v=gt is relevant.


The Attempt at a Solution


15 m/s.
My reasoning was that if after 1s, the object fell 10m at 10m/s,
and after 2s, the object has fallen 30m (10m + 20m) at 20m/s (10m/s + 10m/s),
then I can divide the 2nd speed increment in half to determine speed at 20m fall (10m/s + 5m/s).

I tried using equations before answering 15.
v=gt by itself can't work without t (t was not given).
d=1/2gt^2 tells me the object fell for 2s, but that doesn't seem right (it would have traveled 30m).
Assuming t=2s is right, v = 10m/s/s * 2s = 20m/s.

So which is right: 15 or 20?
 
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Jigen said:
Just finished an exam. One problem is bothering me and I want to be certain if it's right.

Homework Statement


What is the maximum velocity of an object dropped from a 20 m cliff?
Assume no air friction and gravity is 10 m/s/s.

Homework Equations


None given, but I assume v=gt is relevant.

The Attempt at a Solution


15 m/s.
My reasoning was that if after 1s, the object fell 10m at 10m/s,
and after 2s, the object has fallen 30m (10m + 20m) at 20m/s (10m/s + 10m/s),
then I can divide the 2nd speed increment in half to determine speed at 20m fall (10m/s + 5m/s).

I tried using equations before answering 15.
v=gt by itself can't work without t (t was not given).
d=1/2gt^2 tells me the object fell for 2s, but that doesn't seem right (it would have traveled 30m).
Assuming t=2s is right, v = 10m/s/s * 2s = 20m/s.

So which is right: 15 or 20?

It's 20.
In the first second it reaches 10m/s, but travels only 5m [average speed = (0+10)/2 = 5
In the second second second is increases to 20 m/s, traveling a further 15m [average speed = (10+20)/2 = 15.
 
Oh, that's right... it has to be averaged since speed isn't constant. Thanks.
 
In my day we would remember one of the the SUVAT Equations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equations_of_motion

probably V2 = U2 + 2aS

where

V = final velocity
U = initial velocity
a = g ≈10
s = displacement

Reduces to

V2 = 2as
= 2 * 10 * 20
= 400

so V=20
 

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