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Maxwell relations with heat capacity.

  1. Feb 28, 2008 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
    Use the Maxwell relations and the Euler chain relation to express (ds/dt)p in terms of the heat capacity Cv = (du/dt)v. The expansion coefficient alpha = 1/v (dv/dt)p, and the isothermal compressibility Kt = -1/v (dV/dp)T. Hint. Assume that S= S(p,V)

    2. Relevant equations
    dQ(rev) = Tds
    The maxwell relations
    Euler Chain relation

    3. The attempt at a solution

    Alright, my attempts at this involved trying find common partial derivatives from the information already given. I couldn't find anything. But then looking at the hint I thought that there might be a way to express the change in entropy with respect to pressure and volume. I get this ds = (dU + PdV)/T assuming constant pressure. I am really not sure what I am suppose to do. I especially don't get what the expansion coefficient and thermal compressibility has to do with anything, but that might be because I can't see the big picture with this problem.

    A step by step explanation would be greatly appreciated.
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  3. Mar 1, 2008 #2


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    I'd rather consider S to be a function of T and V. Then I could differentiate S as


    Then I'd differentiate with respect to T at constant p:


    You should be able to figure out the rest. This is a useful trick for when you want to compare derivatives taken under different conditions.
  4. Mar 3, 2008 #3
    I am very thankful for your reply. However, I managed to solve the problem several hours after my post. Your method though is something that I didn't think of, so I do appreciate it.
  5. Nov 15, 2009 #4
    I'm not sure about the sentence "all variables and given/known data".

    In fact I succeed in order to obtain a relation between:
    [tex] \left(\frac{\partial s}{\partial T}\right)_p[/tex]
    and [tex] c_v, \alpha, k_T, T, v[/tex] just following the mapes's hint to consider S as a function of T and V. Where minuscle letter for extensive quantity means: "this quantity is molar", and all transformation are intended to involve a costant number of molecules.

    In fact:

    [tex] \left(\frac{\partial s}{\partial T}\right)_p = \left(\frac{\partial s}{\partial T}\right)_v + \left(\frac{\partial s}{\partial v}\right)_T \left(\frac{\partial v}{\partial T}\right)_T [/tex]

    The Maxwell's relation following from [tex] d(-p dv - sdT)=0[/tex] tell us:
    [tex] \left(\frac{\partial s}{\partial v}\right)_p= \left(\frac{\partial p}{\partial T}\right)_v[/tex]
    Now the Euler's chain rule give us the link between the first derivative in second addend, the compressibility and the thermal expansion coefficient. In fact:

    [tex] \left(\frac{\partial p}{\partial T}\right)_v \left(\frac{\partial T}{\partial v}\right)_p\left(\frac{\partial v}{\partial p}\right)_T = -1[/tex]


    [tex]\left(\frac{\partial T}{\partial v}\right)_p = 1/\left(\frac{\partial v}{\partial T}\right)_p [/tex]

    so that:

    [tex] \left(\frac{\partial p}{\partial T}\right)_v = \frac{\alpha}{k_T}[/tex]

    In order to complete the derivation we need to use the given alternative definition of specific heat:

    [tex] c_v = T \left(\frac{\partial s}{\partial T}\right)_v = \left(\frac{\partial u}{\partial T}\right)_v [/tex]

    Which follow from:

    [tex]T dS = dU + p dV [/tex]

    So obtaining:

    [tex] \left(\frac{\partial s}{\partial T}\right)_p = \frac{c_v}{T} + \frac{\alpha^2 v}{k_T}[/tex]

    is this what was required?

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