Undergrad Maxwell’s Relations and Differentiating With Respect to ##N_i##

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This discussion focuses on deriving Maxwell's relations for partial derivatives with respect to particle count ##N_i##, starting from the fundamental thermodynamic relation: $$dU(S,V,N_i)=TdS-PdV+\sum_{i}\mu _idN_i$$. The correct first Maxwell relation is established as $$\left ( \frac{\partial T}{\partial N_i} \right )_{S,V,\left \{ N_{j\neq i} \right \}}=\left ( \frac{\partial \mu _i}{\partial S} \right )_{V,\left \{ N_{j\neq i} \right \}}=\left ( \frac{\partial ^2U}{\partial N_i \partial S} \right )_{V,\left \{ N_{j\neq i } \right \}}$$. The discussion emphasizes the importance of maintaining correct subscripts and the commutation of partial derivatives when deriving additional Maxwell relations. The final relation is confirmed as $$\left (\frac{\partial T}{\partial N_i} \right)_{S,V,\{N_j \}_{j \neq i}} = \left (\frac{\partial \mu_i}{\partial S} \right)_{V,\{N_j \}_{\text{all}\, j}}$$.

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I was wondering if anyone could write out Maxwell's relations for partial derivatives with respect to particle count ##N_i##. Starting from the fundamental thermodynamic relation,

$$dU(S,V,N_i)=TdS-PdV+\sum_{i}\mu _idN_i$$

$$dU(S,V,N_i)=\left ( \frac{\partial U}{\partial S} \right )_{V,\left \{ N_i \right \}}dS+\left ( \frac{\partial U}{\partial V} \right )_{S,\left \{ N_i \right \}}dV+\sum_{i}\left ( \frac{\partial U}{\partial N_i} \right )_{S,V,\left \{ N_{j\neq i } \right \}}dN_i$$

I tried to write a relation by differentiating with respect to particle number, but I want to make sure all of my subscripts are correct. I wrote, for a first Maxwell relation,

$$\left ( \frac{\partial T}{\partial N_i} \right )_{S,V,\left \{ N_{j\neq i} \right \}}=\left ( \frac{\partial \mu _i}{\partial S} \right )_{V,\left \{ N_{j\neq i} \right \}}=\left ( \frac{\partial ^2U}{\partial N_i \partial S} \right )_{V,\left \{ N_{j\neq i} \right \}}$$

Are these subscripts correct? I just want to make sure this is accurate. If someone could write out the remaining Maxwell relations, that would be great. There should be seven more relations left.
 
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You just take ##U## as a function of it's "natural variables", ##S##, ##V##, and ##N_i## and use that the partial derivatives commute. E.g.,
$$\partial_{N_i} \partial_{S} U=\partial_S \partial_{N_i} U.$$
Now you use for the left-hand side
$$\partial_{S} U=T.$$
Then you take the derivative wrt. ##N_i##, and since you apply it to ##U## as a function of the given specific independent quantities this means you have to hold ##S##, ##V##, and ##N_j## (for ##j \neq i##) constant. The same argument holds for the right-hand side. So the correct relation reads
$$\left (\frac{\partial T}{\partial N_i} \right)_{S,V,\{N_j \}_{j \neq i}} = \left (\frac{\partial \mu_i}{\partial S} \right)_{V,\{N_j \}_{\text{all}\, j}}.$$
You have to be carefull with the 2nd derivative of ##U##. Writing it in the form where you specify explicitly which variables to hold constant, it becomes a bit cumbersome:
$$\partial_{N_i} \partial_S U \equiv \left [\frac{\partial}{\partial N_i} \left (\frac{\partial U}{\partial S} \right)_{V, \{N_j \}_{\text{all}\,j}} \right]_{V,S,\{N_j \}_{j \neq i}}.$$
 
vanhees71 said:
You just take ##U## as a function of it's "natural variables", ##S##, ##V##, and ##N_i## and use that the partial derivatives commute. E.g.,
$$\partial_{N_i} \partial_{S} U=\partial_S \partial_{N_i} U.$$
Now you use for the left-hand side
$$\partial_{S} U=T.$$
Then you take the derivative wrt. ##N_i##, and since you apply it to ##U## as a function of the given specific independent quantities this means you have to hold ##S##, ##V##, and ##N_j## (for ##j \neq i##) constant. The same argument holds for the right-hand side. So the correct relation reads
$$\left (\frac{\partial T}{\partial N_i} \right)_{S,V,\{N_j \}_{j \neq i}} = \left (\frac{\partial \mu_i}{\partial S} \right)_{V,\{N_j \}_{\text{all}\, j}}.$$
You have to be carefull with the 2nd derivative of ##U##. Writing it in the form where you specify explicitly which variables to hold constant, it becomes a bit cumbersome:
$$\partial_{N_i} \partial_S U \equiv \left [\frac{\partial}{\partial N_i} \left (\frac{\partial U}{\partial S} \right)_{V, \{N_j \}_{\text{all}\,j}} \right]_{V,S,\{N_j \}_{j \neq i}}.$$
Thanks a lot for this verification here. I see where my mistake was, and I’ll use this to derive the other relations.
 

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