Measuring a Qubit: Understanding Pauli Matrices

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical representation of measuring a qubit's spin using Pauli matrices. Participants explore the implications of such measurements, the role of expectation values, and the conditions under which measurements can be interpreted.

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  • Some participants describe that measuring a qubit's spin along a specific axis results in one of the eigenstates of the corresponding Pauli matrices.
  • One participant presents a mathematical expression for the expectation value of the Pauli z operator, indicating how to calculate the probabilities of measuring the states |0⟩ and |1⟩ based on the coefficients c0 and c1.
  • Another participant challenges the idea of measuring a qubit multiple times, emphasizing the necessity of having an ensemble of identically prepared systems for such measurements.
  • There is a discussion about the lack of a straightforward mathematical operation to represent the act of measurement, with one participant suggesting that the system's state changes upon measurement.
  • Another participant counters this by introducing the concept of a measurement Hamiltonian that couples the qubit to a measuring device, suggesting that this provides a mathematical framework for understanding the measurement process.

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Participants express differing views on the mathematical representation of measurements and the conditions under which they can be performed. There is no consensus on the best approach to describe the measurement process or the implications of measuring a qubit multiple times.

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Some discussions highlight the importance of precise definitions and the assumptions underlying the measurement process, particularly regarding the state of the system before and after measurement.

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I undertand that measuring a qubit's spin along a particular axis yields one of the eigenstates of the corresponding pauli matrices. I'm a little confused about what this type of measurement looks like mathematically. i.e how do you show the actual act of observing the qubits spin using the Pauli matrices?
 
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Let's say that your qubit is in the state ##\vert\psi\rangle = c_0 \vert 0 \rangle + c_1 \vert 1 \rangle##, a simplistic description of a measurement along the ##z## direction is given by evaluating the expectation value of the Pauli ##z## operator, which is ##\langle\psi\vert\sigma_z\vert\psi\rangle = \vert c_1\vert^2 - \vert c_0\vert^2##. (if ##\sigma_z\vert 0\rangle =-\vert 0\rangle##).

Which means that if you measure your qubit ##N## times, you will obtain on average ##\vert c_1\vert^2 N## times ##\vert 1\rangle##, and the rest ##\left( 1- \vert c_1\vert^2\right) N = \vert c_0\vert^2 N## times ##\vert 0\rangle##.
 
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matteo137 said:
Which means that if you measure your qubit ##N## times
But you can't do that. It means that given an ensemble of ##N## identically prepared systems...
 
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DrClaude said:
But you can't do that. It means that given an ensemble of ##N## identically prepared systems...

Yes of course, I was too imprecise, sorry.
 
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jimmycricket said:
I undertand that measuring a qubit's spin along a particular axis yields one of the eigenstates of the corresponding pauli matrices. I'm a little confused about what this type of measurement looks like mathematically. i.e how do you show the actual act of observing the qubits spin using the Pauli matrices?
There is no mathematical operation you can make, apart from saying that before a measurement of observable ##\hat{A}##, with
$$
\hat{A} | \phi_i \rangle = a_i | \phi_i \rangle
$$
the system is in the state
$$
| \psi \rangle = \sum c_i | \phi_i \rangle
$$
and after having measured the value ##a_j##, it is in the state
$$
| \psi \rangle = | \phi_j \rangle
$$
 
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DrClaude said:
There is no mathematical operation you can make

Actually there is. You can say that you are making a measurement by introducing the Hamiltonian
[tex]H_{\text{meas}} = g A\otimes M[/tex]
which couples the qubit to a meter ...

I can suggest you this good review: http://dml.riken.jp/pub/nori/pdf/PhysRep.520.pdf (section 2.2.1)
 
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