Measuring the moment of inertia

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves measuring the moment of inertia of a large wheel rotating about an axis through its center. The scenario includes a wheel with a specified diameter and weight, mounted on frictionless bearings, with a mass hanging from a rope that unwinds as it descends. The objective is to determine the moment of inertia based on the given measurements and the speed of the mass after descending a certain distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss using conservation of energy to relate the potential energy of the hanging mass to the kinetic energy of both the mass and the wheel. There are questions about the correctness of the approach and the calculations involved, particularly regarding the relationship between linear and angular velocity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on checking calculations and correcting the radius used in the equations. There is ongoing exploration of the results obtained, with one participant expressing uncertainty about the reasonableness of their calculated moment of inertia.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted discrepancy in the radius of the wheel, which affects the calculations significantly. Participants are working with the constraints of the given measurements and the principles of energy conservation.

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Homework Statement


You are asked to measure the moment of inertia of a large wheel for rotation about an axis through its center. You measure the diameter of the wheel to be 0.740 m and find that it weighs 280 N. You mount the wheel, using frictionless bearings, on a horizontal axis through the wheel's center. You wrap a light rope around the wheel and hang a 8.00 kg mass from the free end of the rope. You release the mass from rest; the mass descends and the wheel turns as the rope unwinds. You find that the mass has a speed 5.00 m/s after it has descended 2.00m. What is the moment of inertia of the wheel for an axis perpendicular to the wheel at its center?

Homework Equations


E initial = mgh
E final = 1/2mv^2 + 1/2[tex]I[/tex][tex]\omega^2[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried using conservation of energy and then solving for [tex]I[/tex]
But I don't think that is the way to go.

Any help is appreciated, Thanks!
 
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Hi HclGuy,

What did you get from using conservation of energy?
 
Hi HclGuy! :smile:
HclGuy said:
I tried using conservation of energy and then solving for [tex]I[/tex]
But I don't think that is the way to go.

Well it should work.

Show us your working, so that we can see what's going wrong. :smile:
 
So what I did was
mgh = 1/2mv^2 + 1/2[tex]I[/tex][tex]\omega^2[/tex]
Relate angular velocity back to linear velocity by using v = r * angular velocity
mgh = 1/2mv^2 +1/2[tex]I[/tex](v/r)^2
mgh - 1/2mv^2 = 1/2[tex]I[/tex](v/r)^2
2mgh - mv^2 = [tex]I[/tex](v/r)^2
[tex]I[/tex] = (2mgh - mv^2)(r/v)^2
m is 8.00 kg
h is distance the mass traveled = 2.00m
r= radius of wheel = 0.0370m
I get a really small number.. for my answer.. so that leads me to believe it is incorrect.
 
The radius of the wheel is 0.37 m, not 0.037 m. This would make the answer you're getting 100 times smaller than the real answer. Once you correct that, is the answer more reasonable?
 
Well , I ended up with .622 kgm^2, still not sure if that is right but it seems more reasonable..
 

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