Calculating moment of inertia of a complicated system

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The discussion revolves around calculating the moment of inertia for a complex system involving a wheel that is rolled down a ramp. The original poster is investigating the relationship between moment of inertia and speed, and is seeking clarification on how to compute the moment of inertia for the components of their setup, particularly concerning the magnets involved.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss breaking down the moment of inertia into parts and applying the parallel axis theorem. There is also a question regarding the implications of the position of the magnets on the moment of inertia and potential errors associated with their placement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and raising questions about the assumptions made regarding the system's components. Some guidance has been offered about calculating the moment of inertia for composite objects.

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There is mention of specific measurements and parameters related to the experiment, including mass, height, and radius, which may influence the calculations. The original poster's understanding of the role of the magnets in the system is also under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


I am currently doing a lab investigating the relationship between the moment of inertia and speed.
I have attached some pictures of my 'wheel' that is going to be rolled down a ramp. FYI i will be using a photogate to measure the time it takes the black strip to pass through. Initially, I thought the magnets were creating the 'hollow' part of the disc, but apparently i am wrong, and I am wondering how to calculate the moment of inertia of the magnet and then apply the moment of inertia to the equation mgh=1/2mv^2+I system (omega)^2.

Homework Equations


MgH=v^2(m/2+Isystem/2r^2)
where M is the mass of the whole wheel system 0.369kg.
g is 9.8
H is the initial height on the ramp which is 0.105m
V is measured with a photogate ,0.10m/0.11746s= 0.85135m/s
radius of the circle is 8cm.
I of the system is (mr^2/2)+(mr^2/2)+8(mass of magnets (0.019kg(0.53m^2+2(0.078m^2))
where the mass of bgi wheel is 0.142kg and small wheel 0.074kg.

MgH=v^2(m/2+Isystem/2r^2)
where M is the mass of the whole wheel system 0.369kg.
g is 9.8
H is the initial height on the ramp which is 0.105m
V is measured with a photogate ,0.10m/0.11746s= 0.85135m/s
radius of the circle is 8cm.
I of the system is (mr^2/2)+(mr^2/2)+8(mass of magnets (0.019kg(0.53m^2+2(0.078m^2))
where the mass of bgi wheel is 0.142kg and small wheel 0.074kg.

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iancheung228 said:
I have attached some pictures of my 'wheel' that is going to be rolled down a ramp. FYI i will be using a photogate to measure the time it takes the black strip to pass through. Initially, I thought the magnets were creating the 'hollow' part of the disc, but apparently i am wrong, and I am wondering how to calculate the moment of inertia

Can you explain what you mean by "I thought the magnets were creating the 'hollow' part of the disc" ?

The moment of inertia of a composite is the sum of the moments of inertia of the parts. So break it down into parts and look up the moment of inertia of each. You will need to apply the parallel axis theorem.
 
CWatters said:
Can you explain what you mean by "I thought the magnets were creating the 'hollow' part of the disc" ?

The moment of inertia of a composite is the sum of the moments of inertia of the parts. So break it down into parts and look up the moment of inertia of each. You will need to apply the parallel axis theorem.
yup i figured after having a conservation with another person on physics forum. is it true that there's increasing error as my magnet move towards the center of the wheel?
 
Error between what and what?
 

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