Measuring wavelength of microwave radiation using double slits

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The discussion focuses on measuring the wavelength of microwave radiation using double slits, specifically addressing the implications of uncertainty in angle calculations. Participants emphasize that the sine of the angle cannot exceed 1, and any uncertainty must be accounted for when determining the wavelength (λ). A consensus emerges that the wavelength should be calculated using the lower limit of λ = 0.95 cm, rather than λ = 1.00 cm, to ensure accurate results. The conversation highlights the importance of considering physical constraints in wave phenomena.

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However, when they found the angle, they did not account for the uncertainty. I guess this is allowed still since the sine of the angle will still be greater than 1, correct?

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Callumnc1 said:
However, when they found the angle, they did not account for the uncertainty. I guess this is allowed still since the sine of the angle will still be greater than 1, correct?
Would accounting for the uncertainty bring the value of the sine to less than 1? What do you think?
 
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kuruman said:
Would accounting for the uncertainty bring the value of the sine to less than 1? What do you think?
Thank you for your reply @kuruman!

No it would not. Is that the justification they made for not accounting for the uncertainty?

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Callumnc1 said:
No it would not. Is that the justification they made for not accounting for the uncertainty?
I don't know. I can't speak for them.
 
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kuruman said:
I don't know. I can't speak for them.
Thank you for your reply @kuruman!

Oh, is that the justification you would make then?

Many thanks!
 
Callumnc1 said:
Oh, is that the justification you would make then?
Nope. It would be the justification you provided in post #3.
 
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kuruman said:
Nope. It would be the justification you provided in post #3.
Thank you for your help @kuruman!

Sorry, I meant to the justification in post #3.

Many thanks!
 
Callumnc1 said:
However, when they found the angle, they did not account for the uncertainty. I guess this is allowed still since the sine of the angle will still be greater than 1, correct?
A few additional thoughts…

Assume that the ±5% uncertainty determines the allowed range of ##\lambda##. Then ##\lambda## must be between 0.95 cm and 1.05 cm.

(Though note that if ‘5%’ is a standard deviation, then ##\lambda## can be outside this range.)

The smallest possible value of ##\sin \theta_{bright}## (for m=1) is determined by the smallest possible value of ##\lambda##. So, IMO, the model-answer calculation should have been done using ##\lambda## = 0.95 cm rather than ##\lambda## =1.00cm.

But really, no calculation is needed. It is not difficult to argue that the formation of any bright fringes is not physically possible if ##\lambda \gt d##.
 
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Steve4Physics said:
A few additional thoughts…

Assume that the ±5% uncertainty determines the allowed range of ##\lambda##. Then ##\lambda## must be between 0.95 cm and 1.05 cm.

(Though note that if ‘5%’ is a standard deviation, then ##\lambda## can be outside this range.)

The smallest possible value of ##\sin \theta_{bright}## (for m=1) is determined by the smallest possible value of ##\lambda##. So, IMO, the model-answer calculation should have been done using ##\lambda## = 0.95 cm rather than ##\lambda## =1.00cm.

But really, no calculation is needed. It is not difficult to argue that the formation of any bright fringes is not physically possible if ##\lambda \gt d##.
Thank you for your help @Steve4Physics!

Sorry I forgot about this thread.
 
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