Mechanical Engineer from Norway Seeks Help with Problem

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The discussion revolves around a mechanical engineering problem involving two masses and a spring system. The original poster seeks to determine how high mass 1 travels when mass 2 is quickly released, as well as the maximum acceleration of the system.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of energy principles and has set up equations involving spring energy and kinetic energy. They express uncertainty about the relevance of velocity and the role of gravity in their calculations.

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Participants are engaging with the original poster's approach, offering clarifications and questioning certain assumptions. There is an ongoing exploration of the energy conservation concept and the impact of gravity on the system's behavior.

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The original poster mentions a picture describing the problem, which may contain additional context not fully conveyed in the text. There is a focus on the implications of a "quick release" and how it affects the calculations.

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Hi,
I'm a mechanical engineer from Norway who has an work related query.
Please see the attached picture describing the problem.

I'm trying to figure out how heigh mass 1 travels if mass 2 is quick released when being suspended in a spring. I'm also trying to figure out a the maximum acceleration, but that's 2. priority.

I have tried to work out an answer my self, but I don't think it's correct.
The thing I can't get my head around is how to calculate the height mass 1 travels above it's equilibrium due to the speed and spring tension. If the mass 2 had been release slowly, the answer could easily be found using the energy forumula(E=1/2*k*x^2), as far as I can understand.

Any bright minds who could spare a few minutes explaining me this?

Help is much appreciated!

Have a nice sunday.
 

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Hi Emilsen! Welcome to PF! :smile:

I think "quick release" simply means that M2 starts going down, and M1 starts going up.

So you can use conservation of energy (for M1 and the spring).
 
Hi tiny-tim,
Thanks for your reply.

I have tried the following equation setup:
E1spring=E2spring+E2kinetic
1/2kx12=1/2kx22+1/2mv2

I used F=kx to find x1 and x2 for mass 1+2 and mass 1.

I then tried the following formula to calculate how heigh the mass 1 went above the E2spring equilibrium:
v2=v1-gs/v1=0, to find s.

Is this the right path?
 
Hi Emilsen! :smile:
Emilsen said:
I'm trying to figure out how heigh mass 1 travels if mass 2 is quick released when being suspended in a spring.
Emilsen said:
I have tried the following equation setup:
E1spring=E2spring+E2kinetic
1/2kx12=1/2kx22+1/2mv2

nooo …

v is irrelevant, since the system both starts and finishes with v = 0

and what about gravity? :wink:
 

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